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julie u have to know by now..that after all these yrs.. blue doesn't give a damn what u or anyone else thinks about him.. and u can't fault him for that @ all.. he's been consistent since day 1.. (or at least since i've been around.. i can't speak for what's gone on prior to my being on the board)
No you didn't.I said this from the beginning. And don't get so high on yourself. She gave a good speech mostly preaching to the converted. Considering no one's really done a bad job, and I doubt McCain will do anything amazing or awful tomorrow, big woo.
aye know that the above is not a compliment but you are 100 percent correct...and you are intuitive with your remarks...thankyou...you astute american.ps. aye try to keep my namecalling only for archie bunker types...too.
Quote from: Gengiswump on September 03, 2008, 11:52:48 PMUnfortunately, we're going to get whatever they deserve, too. Good point.
Unfortunately, we're going to get whatever they deserve, too.
That's cool how you referenced a case.
I'm so far from the end of my tether right now that I reckon I could knit myself some socks with the slack.
blue i was just being honest.. u know i don't have any issues with u Quote from: b l u e w a r r i o r on September 04, 2008, 12:42:40 AMaye know that the above is not a compliment but you are 100 percent correct...and you are intuitive with your remarks...thankyou...you astute american.ps. aye try to keep my namecalling only for archie bunker types...too.
I was waiting until last night before I made up my mind about Palin. I'm still reserving my verdict until after the debates although I'm about 90% sure I've effectively seen what she has to offer at this point.My Recap of the Palin speech:Introduce herself to the Republican party and to America - 5-10 minAppeal to special needs families - 2 minAddress attacks against her - 5 minTrash Obama - 15 minTrash Media - 5 minBig Up McCain - 15 minShe did an excellent job energizing the Right wing base in a way that McCain has not been able to do on the campaign trail for the past 18 months. They are as hype for her as Dems and Independents (and even some Republicans) were for Obama when he first came out. Her speech was all the stuff the Right loves - sling mud at the other guy, shore up your supporters, remind them why they believe in you, etc.However, there's a very important flip side to this coin:Address the #1 issue to voters in the 2008 election (aka the Economy) - 0 minAddress abortion rights for women - 0 minAddress her own foreign policy experience/plans - 0 minAddress her own domestic policy experience/plans - 0 minAddress same-sex marriage - 0 minPander to swing voters - 0 minSo while I'm sure it fired up the Right, it left the Indi's and the left saying, ok that's great that you can put up a good show, but you talked for 45 minutes straight and didn't say anything substantive. Ironically, this is often the same criticism that the Right has leveled against Obama from the beginning. It's almost as if they're trying to create their own mini-Obama. Only problem is, this lady is no Obama. Obama inspired millions on both sides of the aisle and down the middle. Last night's speech from Palin was aimed at nobody other than the Right. Period. Personally I laughed at a lot of the attacks b/c I thought they were witty (even though some were flat out untrue), but at some points during the attack there was a condescending tone that really turned me off. There was definitely a very overt "Us vs. Them" attitude that came out that was basically disrespectful not only Obama but to anybody who didn't agree with what she was saying. Not exactly a good first impression move.For right now, none of that matters because this is still the courting period and (many?) Americans are in love with the idea of a female VP, however, once you take away the smoke and mirrors and get down to the issues that's when those same Americans will be like "hey...wait a minute...I'm sorry but this whole time I thought you were somebody else." I submit that if this wake up call due to the substantive issues hasn't happened before the debates, it will certainly happen at the debates.The Dems have their work cut out for them. They've gotta bring it if they want to win this one.EDIT: They need Hillary to speak out directly against Palin to quell the noise.
God bless America.You gotta love a country where a poli sci/journalism major from the Univ. of Idaho was mayor of a "city" that would be equal to about five large subdivisions and governor for a year and a half of a state with about as many moose as people would be deemed to have more experience than a Columbia and Harvard-educated lawyer who was a civil rights attorney, law professor, state senator and US Senator.We embrace mediocrity. Only in America.
::clutches doll with matching outfit::
::flippers Sax on ass just for the hell of it::
i'm not gonna judge, i just think you are a f-ing weirdo