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[Why did Sarah Palin resign?]

Why did Sarah Palin resign?

Personal scandal

 5 (17.2%)

Probable indictment

 7 (24.1%)

Just plain craziness

 3 (10.3%)

Looooong lead up to 2012

 4 (13.8%)

Something else

 2 (6.9%)

Some combination of the above

 8 (27.6%)

Total Members Voted: 29

[! B L U E WAR R I O R..!]

oh, it going happen sooner or later.

tell us again how you hate medicare, eh?

tell us how aye hate medicare? aye hate medicare? really? find me the quote, bigotboy. use the search function.

tell us why you are a bigot, first. because that is documented. explain yourself, mr. bigot.

[Julie Fern]

so you support "public option" only for elders, then?

p.s. you goatfucker, you.

[malwal]

As Dostoevsky said (roughly),.."the true measure of civilization is in how a society treats it's prisoners". I would include sick people to that as well. Something has to to be wrong when ALL our peers in terms of wealth, education, and democracy take care of every one of their citizens one way or another,.....and we're still condemning poor people to further financial ruin for having the nerve to get sick.

That being said,...nobody wants to answer my question in the other threads so i'll ask here. What are my chances of acceptance at W&M. I'm a black male, 158/3.11, Virginia resident. And if my chances are good,...any chance for $$.

[! B L U E WAR R I O R..!]

so you support "public option" only for elders, then?

p.s. you goatfucker, you.

okay...you don't understand...how many people over 65 are going to get abortions...

how stupid are you?

now...explain why you are a bigot?

[Julie Fern]

baaaaa.

[! B L U E WAR R I O R..!]

baaaaa.

stop drinking, dude.

do you understand that those over 65 don't get abortions...understand your flawed argument?
you do know that bluedogs are controlling the discussion, eh, bigotboy?
 

[! B L U E WAR R I O R..!]

Obama Revamps Strategy on Pro-Abortion Health Care Bill, May Cut Public Option

by Steven Ertelt

September 2, 2009

 

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- President Barack Obama appears to be retooling his strategy on promoting the pro-abortion government-run health care bill that has fallen out of favor with the American public. Obama is considering detailing what he wants in a health care proposal in a speech next week and the public option may be out.

Aides to Obama say that he may not insist on the public option -- the national health insurance plan run directly by the federal government that would open the door for massive abortion funding.

Obama would have to battle with members of the House, who are demanding the government-run system be kept in HR 3200.

Even if the scheme is dropped, the second portion of the health care proposal, which would provide subsidies to help tens of millions of people buy health insurance, also includes abortion funding.

The speech could come as early as next week and comments from a senior Obama advisor to Politico make it appear that Obama is reacting to criticism from abortion advocates who say he isn't engaged enough in getting the bills through Congress.

“We're entering a new season,” senior adviser David Axelrod said. “It’s time to synthesize and harmonize these strands and get this done. We're confident that we can do that. But obviously it is a different phase. We're going to approach it in a different way. The president is going to be very active."

Reports indicate Obama may use removing the public option from the health care bill as a way to moderate his image at a time when polling data shows he is under a 50 percent approval rating overall and with independent voters.

Although abortion advocates in the House say the bill can't move forward without it, potentially pulling the public option also squares with the reality in the Senate that a health care measure can't pass with it.

Sen. Charles Grassley said Monday that a public option is a no go

"I'm still hopeful, but I'm hopeful based on I think you're talking about something a little less sweeping than what we talked about before," Grassley said about the negotiations in the Senate.

"It's pretty clear that's something not on the table," Grassley said of the government-run scheme. "It's fair to say that not every one of the six is opposed to it, but they realize the reality of it."

Regardless of what happens with the current measures -- H.R. 3200 in the House, and the “Affordable Health Choices Act” (unnumbered) in the Senate -- pro-life advocates will continue fighting to remove abortion and rationing or defeat the bill.

As the independent FactCheck.org recently noted, “Despite what Obama said, the House bill would allow abortions to be covered by a federal plan and by federally subsidized private plans.”

“Obama has said in the past that ‘reproductive services’ would be covered by his public plan, so it’s likely that any new federal insurance plan would cover abortion unless Congress expressly prohibits that. Low- and moderate-income persons who would choose the ‘public plan’ would qualify for federal subsidies to purchase it. Private plans that cover abortion also could be purchased with the help of federal subsidies," the analysis indicated.

[Julie Fern]

baaaaa.

stop drinking, dude.

do you understand that those over 65 don't get abortions...understand your flawed argument?
you do know that bluedogs are controlling the discussion, eh, bigotboy?
 

if only your mother had been that old....

[! B L U E WAR R I O R..!]

baaaaa.

stop drinking, dude.

do you understand that those over 65 don't get abortions...understand your flawed argument?
you do know that bluedogs are controlling the discussion, eh, bigotboy?
 

if only your mother had been that old....

oh? my mother?

all she knows is you use can't face the reality of the present and resort to puerile namecalling when you have no clever response.


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[Julie Fern]

baaaaaa.