Are you doing an LRW assignment? You seem grumpy. Where's the sparky IR kid that I once knew?
I just don't like stupid arguments -- it's a matter of taste, that's all.
QuoteI just don't like stupid arguments -- it's a matter of taste, that's all.So, is the "stupid argument" the part where I say "instead"?
I thought the socio-economic statements were made in support of the original conclusion, which was that there was more to diversity than race. I didn't think it was a seperate conclusion. Although, I didn't read too closely, because I was mostly interested in the Michigan situation specifically and not in yet another debate over the merits of AA in general.
Red, you jumped on me about "instead" ... I didn't mention socioeconomic AA until my 4th post and even that was a side comment. I said that I personally am OK with socioeconomic rather than race-based. My reasoning is:1) I find race-based AA discriminatory. 2) I think that subpar achievement for admissions is better explained by overcoming socioeconomic factors rather than "overcoming" one's race, gender or national origin. But those were all late-entry side arguments to the relatively benign argument I was first making: There can be a diverse class without using race as a determining factor in admissions.
If he isn't making that assumption, I don't have any idea what his post was even roughly about.
QuoteGosh, but I thought being socio-economically disadvantaged wasn't a problem as long as you follow your dreams! A little Google, a little common sense, and nothing should stand in your way!I still say there's pretty much no excuse for an empty resume. But I have much more sympathy for someone who worked 20 hours a week working in the computer lab and still managed to get a 3.6 and hold leadership positions in three clubs. In my dream system, a socioeconomic AA applicant should say "This is what I accomplished in spite of these specific challenges that I faced" not "I accomplished nothing, but hey, I was poor!"
Gosh, but I thought being socio-economically disadvantaged wasn't a problem as long as you follow your dreams! A little Google, a little common sense, and nothing should stand in your way!
If there aren't any arguments against my claims, then I'll depart gracefully. Feel free to continue the concordant attack on my character, it's funny.
Hugs, Look to the f-ing left.