Are you doing an LRW assignment? You seem grumpy. Where's the sparky IR kid that I once knew?
I just don't like stupid arguments -- it's a matter of taste, that's all.
QuoteI just don't like stupid arguments -- it's a matter of taste, that's all.So, is the "stupid argument" the part where I say "instead"?
I thought the socio-economic statements were made in support of the original conclusion, which was that there was more to diversity than race. I didn't think it was a seperate conclusion. Although, I didn't read too closely, because I was mostly interested in the Michigan situation specifically and not in yet another debate over the merits of AA in general.
Red, you jumped on me about "instead" ... I didn't mention socioeconomic AA until my 4th post and even that was a side comment. I said that I personally am OK with socioeconomic rather than race-based. My reasoning is:1) I find race-based AA discriminatory. 2) I think that subpar achievement for admissions is better explained by overcoming socioeconomic factors rather than "overcoming" one's race, gender or national origin. But those were all late-entry side arguments to the relatively benign argument I was first making: There can be a diverse class without using race as a determining factor in admissions.
If he isn't making that assumption, I don't have any idea what his post was even roughly about.
QuoteGosh, but I thought being socio-economically disadvantaged wasn't a problem as long as you follow your dreams! A little Google, a little common sense, and nothing should stand in your way!I still say there's pretty much no excuse for an empty resume. But I have much more sympathy for someone who worked 20 hours a week working in the computer lab and still managed to get a 3.6 and hold leadership positions in three clubs. In my dream system, a socioeconomic AA applicant should say "This is what I accomplished in spite of these specific challenges that I faced" not "I accomplished nothing, but hey, I was poor!"
Gosh, but I thought being socio-economically disadvantaged wasn't a problem as long as you follow your dreams! A little Google, a little common sense, and nothing should stand in your way!