I'm sorry for pointing out that to use arguments which, in essence, come down to "anyone who disagrees with what I have just said mentally deranged" might suggest something wrong with the arguer's logic.Should I point out that you seem to be confusing governments, states, and persons? Iran did not say it wanted to wipe Israel off the map; the president of Iran did. Iran does not hate, Israel does not love, and the United States does not support. People do. Governments do. Countries don't. Using words like "they" and "you" personalizes the issues to a degree that is bound to cause some irrationality to emerge. It simplifies, and it makes for overgeneralizations. Is this now a valid criticism of your arguments?
Quote from: ionlyknowy on August 16, 2006, 04:17:05 PMQuote from: gillesthegreat on August 16, 2006, 03:59:34 PMI must have missed the post where you coherently, logically and elegantly equated 'rogue' with 'who want to kill you'.That major of yours on LSN which you state as "eng", pray tell, is it engineering? It would explain the cromulent grammar and pervasive absolutism of your 'reasoning'.I'm tired of your Ad Hoministic attacks, this does not help anything... why even say something like that.. are you trying to discredit me so therefore discrediting what I say? Just wrong..LOL. Didn't you just sling "tards" in your last post? Whatever. This is a really silly argument, and it doesn't really relate to the Palast piece very well.
Quote from: gillesthegreat on August 16, 2006, 03:59:34 PMI must have missed the post where you coherently, logically and elegantly equated 'rogue' with 'who want to kill you'.That major of yours on LSN which you state as "eng", pray tell, is it engineering? It would explain the cromulent grammar and pervasive absolutism of your 'reasoning'.I'm tired of your Ad Hoministic attacks, this does not help anything... why even say something like that.. are you trying to discredit me so therefore discrediting what I say? Just wrong..
I must have missed the post where you coherently, logically and elegantly equated 'rogue' with 'who want to kill you'.That major of yours on LSN which you state as "eng", pray tell, is it engineering? It would explain the cromulent grammar and pervasive absolutism of your 'reasoning'.
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Quote from: Miss P on August 16, 2006, 04:19:11 PMQuote from: ionlyknowy on August 16, 2006, 04:17:05 PMQuote from: gillesthegreat on August 16, 2006, 03:59:34 PMI must have missed the post where you coherently, logically and elegantly equated 'rogue' with 'who want to kill you'.That major of yours on LSN which you state as "eng", pray tell, is it engineering? It would explain the cromulent grammar and pervasive absolutism of your 'reasoning'.I'm tired of your Ad Hoministic attacks, this does not help anything... why even say something like that.. are you trying to discredit me so therefore discrediting what I say? Just wrong..LOL. Didn't you just sling "tards" in your last post? Whatever. This is a really silly argument, and it doesn't really relate to the Palast piece very well.You're funny, ionlyknow, but she's right you use them too.
Quote from: Freak on August 16, 2006, 04:38:37 PMQuote from: Miss P on August 16, 2006, 04:19:11 PMQuote from: ionlyknowy on August 16, 2006, 04:17:05 PMQuote from: gillesthegreat on August 16, 2006, 03:59:34 PMI must have missed the post where you coherently, logically and elegantly equated 'rogue' with 'who want to kill you'.That major of yours on LSN which you state as "eng", pray tell, is it engineering? It would explain the cromulent grammar and pervasive absolutism of your 'reasoning'.I'm tired of your Ad Hoministic attacks, this does not help anything... why even say something like that.. are you trying to discredit me so therefore discrediting what I say? Just wrong..LOL. Didn't you just sling "tards" in your last post? Whatever. This is a really silly argument, and it doesn't really relate to the Palast piece very well.You're funny, ionlyknow, but she's right you use them too.Yea but it was more descriptive, tell who I was talking about, not meant to discredit what any of his arguements.. I wouldn't be so quick to call it an Ad hominem
Quote from: ionlyknowy on August 16, 2006, 04:41:52 PMQuote from: Freak on August 16, 2006, 04:38:37 PMQuote from: Miss P on August 16, 2006, 04:19:11 PMQuote from: ionlyknowy on August 16, 2006, 04:17:05 PMQuote from: gillesthegreat on August 16, 2006, 03:59:34 PMI must have missed the post where you coherently, logically and elegantly equated 'rogue' with 'who want to kill you'.That major of yours on LSN which you state as "eng", pray tell, is it engineering? It would explain the cromulent grammar and pervasive absolutism of your 'reasoning'.I'm tired of your Ad Hoministic attacks, this does not help anything... why even say something like that.. are you trying to discredit me so therefore discrediting what I say? Just wrong..LOL. Didn't you just sling "tards" in your last post? Whatever. This is a really silly argument, and it doesn't really relate to the Palast piece very well.You're funny, ionlyknow, but she's right you use them too.Yea but it was more descriptive, tell who I was talking about, not meant to discredit what any of his arguements.. I wouldn't be so quick to call it an Ad hominemOf course not, you wrote them.
And for the record, cromulent is now accepted by Webster's new millenium dictionary
A - And you complained about Ad hominem? B - If I were to borrow your use of personalization (bordering on animism), I could state verily that the UNITED STATES killed Allende and Lumumba, that the UNITED STATES supported terrorism in El Salvador and Nicaragua, that the UNITED STATES attempted a coup against Hugo Chavez, that the UNITED STATES supported the actions of the Suharto regime. If you agree with all these carecterizations, I think we could agree to disagree on many things.C - It seems you define rogue nations as "one who wants to kill you" or something of that order. Could you elaborate? It might lead you to the realization that you watch too much Fox news.D - "By that statement I would have to write a 500 page document explaining exactly what I meant...". Not if you were to use words that actually meant something. It seems you rely an awful lot on truthiness.