This is precisely the issue.You're STILL fighting this strawman. I'm telling you, this is going to get more viciously circular the more we talk about it. You'll continue to beat your dead horse, and I'll continue to tell you it's a dead horse, to which you'll respond, "IT'S NOT A DEAD HORSE, YOU DON'T KNOW ME," while still beating it. 1. "We" did not attack your use of the word. Until you misread Halfie, there was no attack whatsoever.2. If you think a joke barb like "did you fail the LSAT" constitutes "criticizing" your "intellectual capacity", then you need to grow a thicker skin.3. Don't use words that you don't understand.
It's refreshing to see a flame war between two people who aren't me.I wonder how much real judges get paid. Not counting bribes, I mean.
Pish, J only wants to waste YOUR time. Get wise.
Quote from: Zen Master K on November 29, 2006, 12:09:54 AMIt's refreshing to see a flame war between two people who aren't me.I wonder how much real judges get paid. Not counting bribes, I mean.This is way too lame to be a flame war.
Quote from: JTG on November 28, 2006, 09:32:14 PMSimply put,I objected to Halfie taking offense at my post when he clearly doesn't understand that money can be both a social and economic factor.I object to your continued existence in my universe, but you don't see me whining about it, do you?Also, what J said.
Simply put,I objected to Halfie taking offense at my post when he clearly doesn't understand that money can be both a social and economic factor.
Quote from: JTG on November 29, 2006, 01:16:55 AMQuote from: glass half full on November 29, 2006, 12:50:35 AMQuote from: JTG on November 28, 2006, 09:32:14 PMSimply put,I objected to Halfie taking offense at my post when he clearly doesn't understand that money can be both a social and economic factor.I object to your continued existence in my universe, but you don't see me whining about it, do you?Also, what J said.Awww halfie. Makes a little appearance not to refute any points, but just to attack. Sorry halfie.You seriously think you've said anything here that needs and deserves refuting?
Quote from: glass half full on November 29, 2006, 12:50:35 AMQuote from: JTG on November 28, 2006, 09:32:14 PMSimply put,I objected to Halfie taking offense at my post when he clearly doesn't understand that money can be both a social and economic factor.I object to your continued existence in my universe, but you don't see me whining about it, do you?Also, what J said.Awww halfie. Makes a little appearance not to refute any points, but just to attack. Sorry halfie.
Quote from: MaraudingJ on November 28, 2006, 08:08:59 PMQuote from: JTG on November 28, 2006, 06:58:55 PMQuote from: glass half full on November 28, 2006, 05:54:43 PMQuote from: JTG on November 28, 2006, 02:17:07 AMI personally think that AA should be solely based on socioeconomic variables, and without as much of an emphasis on race.Can someone PLEASE explain to me why people constantly do this?If you want race removed from the equation and you want it based on money, you want consideration of economic variables; if you want race considered, you need the socio- in socioeconomic. Right? What am I missing? Race is, by definition, a social factor, and the word socioeconomic is formed by combining social + economic.Explain please!Sorry but you're wrong. You're right that race is a social factor but it is by no means the only social factor. Families, peers and schools are social factors as well. If a white kid grew up in foster homes with abusive parents and went to poor schools then it is clear that he had a disadvantaged childhood. If a black kid grew up in Beverly Hills with a spinal surgeon father and an attorney for a mother, chances are he didn't have a very disadvantaged childhood. Obviously these are extreme examples. So when I say that I want it to be based on social variables with a racial exclusion, there's nothing wrong with that. Plenty of racial minorities will still be helped since they tend to come from disadvantaged backgrounds.Did you fail the LSAT?@#!* all of ya'll, I made an A+ on my LSAT, and with the bonus questions, I got a 120. Suck it.
Quote from: JTG on November 28, 2006, 06:58:55 PMQuote from: glass half full on November 28, 2006, 05:54:43 PMQuote from: JTG on November 28, 2006, 02:17:07 AMI personally think that AA should be solely based on socioeconomic variables, and without as much of an emphasis on race.Can someone PLEASE explain to me why people constantly do this?If you want race removed from the equation and you want it based on money, you want consideration of economic variables; if you want race considered, you need the socio- in socioeconomic. Right? What am I missing? Race is, by definition, a social factor, and the word socioeconomic is formed by combining social + economic.Explain please!Sorry but you're wrong. You're right that race is a social factor but it is by no means the only social factor. Families, peers and schools are social factors as well. If a white kid grew up in foster homes with abusive parents and went to poor schools then it is clear that he had a disadvantaged childhood. If a black kid grew up in Beverly Hills with a spinal surgeon father and an attorney for a mother, chances are he didn't have a very disadvantaged childhood. Obviously these are extreme examples. So when I say that I want it to be based on social variables with a racial exclusion, there's nothing wrong with that. Plenty of racial minorities will still be helped since they tend to come from disadvantaged backgrounds.Did you fail the LSAT?
Quote from: glass half full on November 28, 2006, 05:54:43 PMQuote from: JTG on November 28, 2006, 02:17:07 AMI personally think that AA should be solely based on socioeconomic variables, and without as much of an emphasis on race.Can someone PLEASE explain to me why people constantly do this?If you want race removed from the equation and you want it based on money, you want consideration of economic variables; if you want race considered, you need the socio- in socioeconomic. Right? What am I missing? Race is, by definition, a social factor, and the word socioeconomic is formed by combining social + economic.Explain please!Sorry but you're wrong. You're right that race is a social factor but it is by no means the only social factor. Families, peers and schools are social factors as well. If a white kid grew up in foster homes with abusive parents and went to poor schools then it is clear that he had a disadvantaged childhood. If a black kid grew up in Beverly Hills with a spinal surgeon father and an attorney for a mother, chances are he didn't have a very disadvantaged childhood. Obviously these are extreme examples. So when I say that I want it to be based on social variables with a racial exclusion, there's nothing wrong with that. Plenty of racial minorities will still be helped since they tend to come from disadvantaged backgrounds.
Quote from: JTG on November 28, 2006, 02:17:07 AMI personally think that AA should be solely based on socioeconomic variables, and without as much of an emphasis on race.Can someone PLEASE explain to me why people constantly do this?If you want race removed from the equation and you want it based on money, you want consideration of economic variables; if you want race considered, you need the socio- in socioeconomic. Right? What am I missing? Race is, by definition, a social factor, and the word socioeconomic is formed by combining social + economic.Explain please!
I personally think that AA should be solely based on socioeconomic variables, and without as much of an emphasis on race.