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Vic

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Attn: Cascagros
« on: August 18, 2004, 05:59:27 PM »
Hey Cas,

How did you get so savy with logic, if you don't mind me asking?  You really have a way with breaking components down and any advice for self improvement, I would greatly appreciate.

What's your background, did you study that in college (ie, couple of courses?)

And/Or did you use:
A: LG Bible,
B: prepcourse,
C: other,
D: or all of the above?

Your reply would be much appreciated by one who is assiduously wrestling with the above mentioned.

Thanks,

Vic  :))

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Re: Attn: Cascagros
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2004, 06:10:57 PM »
if you PM him you might get a quicker response.

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Re: Attn: Cascagros
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2004, 06:41:45 PM »
if you PM him you might get a quicker response.

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I just did!  Tx. Casino.  Vic   :)

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Re: Attn: Cascagros
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2004, 11:04:09 PM »
hi, sorry i didnt reply earlier, i just got back from my testmasters class.

im an economics major so i dont have any background in logic and the only lsat prep i have done so far is with my testmasters class.  i also bought the logic games bible, but i have not used it yet(im actually planning to work through it over the next week).  i also have the 10 most recent lsats which i will start doing next week.

i HIGHLY recommend testmasters, so take a course if you have a chance.

other than that, i guess it just boils down to repetition and learning the logic specific to the lsat.  if you do a ton of LR questions, eventually you start to recognize the argument structure in a stimulus before you even get to the question stem, and that makes answering them much easier. 

i also have pretty much memorized sufficient and neccessary trigger words, as well as words that introduce a conclusion or premise.  its important to be able to breakdown every argument and distinguish between any conclusion and any premises.

and learning how to diagram sufficient and neccessary conditions is a big help for really confusing questions since it allows you to step back from all the wordiness and approach the question from a more mechanical standpoint.

i dont really know if this post was any help, but feel free to ask if you have any other questions.  good luck studying!

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Re: Attn: Cascagros
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2004, 01:14:08 PM »
Cas,

Tx. for responding and all the valuable info.  Just 2 qs.

1.  Do you read the stimulus before the q stem on LR?

2.  Did Testmasters teach you guys how to break down the logic in LR, or is that something you just applied after memorizing key words for Nec. vs. Suf. and the rules of course for logic.

3.  Why did you choose testmasters over any other prep. courses out there?  (though it appears you made a prudent choice  :)   )

I'm taking Kaplan right now and have found them very effective with certain aspects of the test, while ineffective on other parts.

Thanks for your time,

Vic

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Re: Attn: Cascagros
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2004, 05:21:46 PM »
1)  i NEVER read the question stem before the stimulus.  thats probably the fundamental difference between kaplan/pr and testmasters/powerscore.  the main reason why is that it wastes time(if you read the stem first, you almost always have to read it again after the stimulus so you end up reading it twice) and reading the stem first ruins your natural reaction to the stimulus.

2)  everything i learned about logic comes from my testmasters class.  memorizing sufficient and neccessary key words(unless, only, if, whenever, etc.) is really important, you want to get to the point where you dont even have to think about it.  at first i would see the word "only" and i would have to think "hmm, does this introduce the sufficient or the neccessary, and does it negate either of them? what exactly is a neccessary condition?"  now when i see the word "only" i dont even hesitate in reading it as introducing the neccessary and understanding what exactly it means that it is a neccessary condition in the stimulus.

3) testmasters was recommended to me by a lot of people, and everything i read about them online was positive.  i took a princeton review SAT class in high school and wasnt really happy with it, and i heard mixed reviews about kaplan, so i figured testmasters was the way to go.

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Re: Attn: Cascagros
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2004, 07:34:29 PM »
I hear ya on the re-reading of the stem.  That's me right now with some of the LR qs.

Thanks for your honest thoughts.

Vic

BTW, glad to hear they're sufficiently helping you!   ;)