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nationallaw

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Re: National Law School
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2006, 10:01:51 PM »
We are another option out there.  A legal education should not be guarded.  Some Pro Se lawyers do very well!  With our program, if someone from anywhere in the world really wants to be a "good" attorney and pass the bar exam, we certainly give them that opportunity and will do everything in our power to ensure our students succeed.

Doug Marcus
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Re: National Law School
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2006, 10:08:18 PM »
Hong Kong is still a protected area.  If you hold a Chinese Passport, you need a visa to get to Hong Kong.  Hong Kong residents have their own passport and ID cards still.  Anyways, it is a very rich and wonderful place, lawyers are easily making $400 an hour there and having probably too much fun.  Out of all the British Common Law countries that will let you in, Hong Kong would be my first pick.

Doug Marcus
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Re: National Law School
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2006, 10:48:32 PM »
According to the California Bar no one from your school has ever passed the California Bar and been admitted to practice law

Here is the history of test takers from National. Going back almost 10 years it appears only 2 people have passed the bar exam

1997 - 15 first time test takers, none passed

1998 - 9 first time test takers, none passed

1999 - 9 first time test takers + 13 repeaters, 1 passed

2000 - 17 repeaters took the test, 1 passed

2001 - 8 repeaters, 1 passed

2002 - The 7 bobos that failed retook the test, none passed

2003 - 3 gave up and 4 retook the bar exam, none passed

2004 - Same 4 bobos retook the bar exam, none passter

2005 - Bobos gave up, no retakes or first timers

2006 - No one took the bar exam


Stats available at http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_generic.jsp?sImagePath=Examination_Results_Statistics.gif&sCategoryPath=/Home/About%20the%20Bar/Bar%20Exam&sHeading=Examination%20Results/Statistics&sFileType=HTML&sCatHtmlPath=html/Admissions_Old-Statistics.html

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Re: National Law School
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2006, 10:52:48 PM »
According to the California Bar no one from your school has ever passed the California Bar and been admitted to practice law

Here is the history of test takers from National. Going back almost 10 years it appears only 2 people have passed the bar exam

1997 - 15 first time test takers, none passed

1998 - 9 first time test takers, none passed

1999 - 9 first time test takers + 13 repeaters, 1 passed

2000 - 17 repeaters took the test, 1 passed

2001 - 8 repeaters, 1 passed

2002 - The 7 bobos that failed retook the test, none passed

2003 - 3 gave up and 4 retook the bar exam, none passed

2004 - Same 4 bobos retook the bar exam, none passter

2005 - Bobos gave up, no retakes or first timers

2006 - No one took the bar exam


Stats available at http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_generic.jsp?sImagePath=Examination_Results_Statistics.gif&sCategoryPath=/Home/About%20the%20Bar/Bar%20Exam&sHeading=Examination%20Results/Statistics&sFileType=HTML&sCatHtmlPath=html/Admissions_Old-Statistics.html


You pwned that scammer.

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Re: National Law School
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2006, 10:56:47 PM »
Oh I am sure there is a reasonable explanation why they collected a couple million in tuition to produce 2 paralegals.

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Re: National Law School
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2006, 10:59:08 PM »
That is Nation University School of Law.  National Law School has just opened and is not affiliated with National University in any way.

Doug Marcus
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Re: National Law School
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2006, 02:47:58 AM »
The ABA does not guard legal education, society does.  It is too costly, time consuming and out of the reach for most citizens to gain even a basic legal knowledge.  Out legal system is where we go to settle all matters, enforce laws and contracts and makes up the back bone of society. 

National Law School opens the door wider so more individuals can receive a legal education.

Doug Marcus
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Re: National Law School
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2006, 03:13:33 AM »
National Law School recruits students from all over the world, that is why we are called National Law School, in the literal sense of being a national law school.  You can read below what our graduates options are.  Lastly, your legal education never ends.  You will constantly be learning, new rulings will come out, statutes change, etc.  Going to even a top ABA law school has very little to do with how great of an attorney you will be.  I am not saying going to a top ABA school will open alot of doors, and those doors will lead to alot of experience which is crucial. 
 
   
 What can I do with my degree?
 
Upon successful completion of our program, student's will immediately become eligible to take   the California Bar Examination.After successful registration and acceptance in the California State Bar, students can take the Wisconsin Bar Examination. Students wanting to sit for the
DC bar, would complete our program and 26 semester hours in specific classes to qualify.After practicing in California for 3 years, you could take the Texas and Maine bar After 4 years, New Mexico.  After 5 years, New York, Arizona, and Colorado would allow you to take their bar exam. Finally after 10 years, Nevada would allow you to take their bar exam. Your degree and being a member of the California State Bar will allow you to  be corporate counsel for any company in any state. You can file a motion in any state court to represent someone or an entity on a case by case basis. You will be able to practice law in federal courts, which are located in all states.  The US Supreme Court would entertain your argument.  Lastly, many of the British Common Law countries would allow you to take their bar examination These countries would include the United Kingdom, Australia, Hong Kong and India to name a few.
For additional information, please contact the State Bar of the state you want to practice and consult this document at http://www.nationallawschool.net/abalegal.pdf .

 

 

 

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Re: National Law School
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2006, 03:25:08 AM »
you have never heard of a national school before?  Like is your school national, regional or local?

Anyways, I can just share my litigation expierience.  Half the battle is knowing the process of filing a complaint, all the motions you could possible file, the legal elements you need to prove etc.  The second part is seeing the legal reasoning behind your argument.  If it is a telephone harassment case, and the witness testifies there was a 15 second pause before any words were spoken, you immediatly have to know, telephone harassment is an intent crime, case law dictates this intent is measured at the time the call is placed, the mere words spoken are not the crime.  A 15 second pause would make you argue, we don't know who dialed the phone, we don't know what the intent was, what was said or trying to be said during those 15 seconds of silence?

Your legal education will never end, and just because someone didn't go to a top ABA school, doesn't mean they will not give you a real run for your money one day.

Doug Marcus
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Re: National Law School
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2006, 03:34:25 AM »
.edu names are now only given to school accreddited by a federal accredditing body.  We could go ahead with that road, but as you know the only accreditation which will mean anything to our students is the ABA.  The ABA will not even look at our application until we have been in operation for a year.  Every law school has to start off as a Non-ABA Approved school, there is no way to open a school and be ABA approved from day one, we all have to start off that way.  National Law School has extensive experience with software development, and will build a virtual class room model using both online and seated class time to satisfy ABA requirements.  Read the ABA standards, they allow for online course work.  At some point when we are ABA approved, we will then register nationallawschool.edu. If you were going to start a law school, what would you call it?  


As for the Dean, I am not even going to attempt to defend him to you.  He is a very well respected lawyer, and has only gotten into arbitration and mediation recently.  His number is on our web site, I encourage you to speak to him directly if you have any doubt to his qualifications or determination.