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one F grade in grad school...am i doomed in admission?
« on: June 20, 2006, 12:46:48 AM »
Hi guys I have a question:

I have a 3.3 UGPA(LSDAS) and 175 LSAT score (Iím aiming for Minnesota Law since I think my numbers are good enough for them)

However I have a blemish on my record: I got a F in a grad computer science class ( I took three grad computer science classes before deciding that computers/software isn't for me and dropped out of the program). The other two classes I got B- and B+.

Am I screwed (since it showed that I couldnít muster grad school?) despite my ok UGPA and good LSAT score?

Also do I need to send in the transcripts of those three grad classes that I took?

Thanks a lot for the advice; Iím suicidal sometimes just thinking about that dreadful software class-it didnít help the matters that I didnít get along with the professor.

 :)

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Re: one F grade in grad school...am i doomed in admission?
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2006, 12:59:21 AM »
thanks.

so I do have to send in the transcripts for that class......... :(

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Re: one F grade in grad school...am i doomed in admission?
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2006, 01:07:53 AM »
yeah.  i know it sucks, but there's not really an option.  Especially since it was a computer science class that you received an F (has nothing to do with law school other than the fact it's a graduate level course), I think you will be able to explain this in the addendum.  You're going to have to explain why it was an F though.  Why were you able to get Bs in the other classes, but not this one?  You'll have to explain that as well I think since they'll notice the discrepancy in your graduate transcript.  I've heard that maximum length addendums should be is 2 paragraphs, and even that is a lot longer than I think you need.  I'd aim for one short and to the point paragraph. 

thanks man,

life sucks sometimes........

 :(


also, does LSAC investigates when they get your file from LSDAS?


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Re: one F grade in grad school...am i doomed in admission?
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2006, 01:18:34 AM »
Some people say that the LSAC people have a way of knowing where all you went to school, and other background type info, but I'm not sure how true this is.  I've never read on their website that they do any sort of background type check.

To be honest, I think there definitely are people out there that who have probably hidden things like taking a couple classes at a different college from where they got their degree and have never been caught, but it's not worth the risk.  You don't want to spend 3 years hoping that no one catches your secret.  Especially since the character and fitness stuff doesn't happen till your 2nd or 3rd year there's a big potential for you to waste tons of money and tons of your time for absolutely no reason. 

I'm assuming you took these grad classes at a different college than from the place you're getting your degree, right?  Did you ever transfer anything from that college to your current college?

Actually I'm out of college for two years....

and unfortunately I took the grad software class at the same UG college (although a year after I got my B.A in Business).

and the class I got for F is Database managment...and I just didn't understand the concept.




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Re: one F grade in grad school...am i doomed in admission?
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2006, 01:32:20 AM »
Hi guys I have a question:

I have a 3.3 UGPA(LSDAS) and 175 LSAT score (Iím aiming for Minnesota Law since I think my numbers are good enough for them)

However I have a blemish on my record: I got a F in a grad computer science class ( I took three grad computer science classes before deciding that computers/software isn't for me and dropped out of the program). The other two classes I got B- and B+.

Am I screwed (since it showed that I couldnít muster grad school?) despite my ok UGPA and good LSAT score?

Also do I need to send in the transcripts of those three grad classes that I took?

Thanks a lot for the advice; Iím suicidal sometimes just thinking about that dreadful software class-it didnít help the matters that I didnít get along with the professor.

 :)


You should be shooting higher than Minnesota.  While the GPA whores (YHS & Boalt) are out, you have a good shot at the rest of the T14.  I would apply to all of those, as well as some other schools like Vandy, Minnesota, BU, etc. 

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Re: one F grade in grad school...am i doomed in admission?
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2006, 01:32:55 AM »
yeah, you'll get into better than minnesoTTTa.

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Re: one F grade in grad school...am i doomed in admission?
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2006, 01:39:42 AM »
Thanks a lot for the info guys.

I guess I don't have to kill myself now.

 ;)

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Re: one F grade in grad school...am i doomed in admission?
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2006, 01:44:39 AM »
Thanks a lot for the info guys.

I guess I don't have to kill myself now.

 ;)

Take a look at these.

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/search_users.php?action=search&cycle=3&lsat1_is=is_greater&lsat1=173&lsat2=177&gpa_lsdas1_is=is_greater&gpa_lsdas1=3.2&gpa_lsdas2=3.4&gpa_degree1_is=is_greater&gpa_degree1=&gpa_degree2=&rank_in_is=is_greater&rank_in=&rank_out_is=is_greater&rank_out=&school_type_is=is&school_type=&state=0&location_is=is&location=&major_is=is&major=&race_is=is&race=&sex=All&international=All&urm=All&multiple_lsat=0&x=25&y=3

Wherever you decide to apply, apply very early (ideally, when the apps first become available, but if that's not possible, no later than Oct. 31 or so). 

You might also want to consider applying early decision somewhere (Columbia, Michigan, and NYU all offer it).  The disadvantage with that is you don't have other offers from which to negotiate scholarships. 

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Re: one F grade in grad school...am i doomed in admission?
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2006, 02:23:15 AM »
Thanks a lot for the info guys.

I guess I don't have to kill myself now.

 ;)

Take a look at these.

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/search_users.php?action=search&cycle=3&lsat1_is=is_greater&lsat1=173&lsat2=177&gpa_lsdas1_is=is_greater&gpa_lsdas1=3.2&gpa_lsdas2=3.4&gpa_degree1_is=is_greater&gpa_degree1=&gpa_degree2=&rank_in_is=is_greater&rank_in=&rank_out_is=is_greater&rank_out=&school_type_is=is&school_type=&state=0&location_is=is&location=&major_is=is&major=&race_is=is&race=&sex=All&international=All&urm=All&multiple_lsat=0&x=25&y=3

Wherever you decide to apply, apply very early (ideally, when the apps first become available, but if that's not possible, no later than Oct. 31 or so). 

You might also want to consider applying early decision somewhere (Columbia, Michigan, and NYU all offer it).  The disadvantage with that is you don't have other offers from which to negotiate scholarships. 




Thanks for the info and link.

I will def. apply early.  :)

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Re: one F grade in grad school...am i doomed in admission?
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2006, 09:36:45 AM »
I just want to say I empathize with this...

I have what is probably an F in a grad class too. Except mine? I'm pretty sure it's Con Law. Kill me now. Although mine comes from an incomplete being converted to an F. I faxed in the paper, I was already planning to drop out of my PhD program... I don't think he received it. I ceased to care. And of course... this was at what is now my top realistic choice for law school. Thank goodness that was in 1997.

I think you have a great chance, though. Your UG grades are decent and your LSAT is great. I doubt it will matter much for you.
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