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By saying "quite obvious" I meant quite obvious to me, not that anyone else who believes differently is wrong. Or a doodiehead. I think I may have given that post a different tone by neglecting to say that. Sorry I was just discussing, not preaching. What do I think we need to do to win? Well, a good place to start would have been to go after al Qaeda and not waste resources on Iraq. The UN inspections would have revealed that our justification for war was erroneous. I think this illustrates why the UN should be allowed to operate to protect the peace. But, since we already invaded Iraq, I think the strategy Kerry outlined would be enough for now. 1. Bring our allies back into the fold. 2. Get the UN involved deeply 3. Stop threatening North Korea and Iran i.e. let the UN Security Council do its job4. End the practice of hiring mercenary forces in Iraq and Afghanistan i.e. keep the forces under government control5. Allow our soldiers committing atrocities to be brought before the ICJ (or is it the ICC, I can't remember)6. Rebuild the damned country and give Halliburton/KBR one hell of an audit7. Get out and learn our lesson
We have to project a strong image around the world. But just because we are the biggest guy on the block doesn't mean we have to beat the *&^% out of everyone to prove it.
TimWhat do you have besides your opinion that this terrorism is nihilistic?You mentioned the duplicity of Sudan, but duplicity is certainly not unique to nihilistic terrorism.
Quote from: jeffjoe on August 16, 2004, 08:21:16 AMTimWhat do you have besides your opinion that this terrorism is nihilistic?You mentioned the duplicity of Sudan, but duplicity is certainly not unique to nihilistic terrorism.Bin Laden's assertions. Based on everything he and his representitives have said, he's not interested in negotiation. He's interested in imposing sharia everywhere possible, and killing as many infidels, crusaders, zionists and secular/moderate muslims as it takes to do it.I mentioned Sudan as evidence that the UN isn't much better than useless, rather than as an example of nihilistic terrorism. The ethnic cleansing taking place in Dafur isn't nihilistic, the government has what seems to be the specific desire to see all of the black Africans killed or run off their land. Evil, but not nihilistic.
So when the US says they will not negotiate with terrorists then the US is nihilistic?You can interpret Bin Laden's sayings as nihilistic or you could say they are fanatically determined to win.I don't remember hearing Bin Laden say he is only interested in killing the whole world. Just his enemies.Of course, it is easier to deal with the world when you believe your enemies are nihilistic. Then you can consider them to be just sick animals waiting for extermination.