South Side: Where did you read that standardized testing was designed to create a more open higher education system? I was under the impression that IQ tests were designed to determine who could be fast tracked in the military, and that SATs were originally intended to keep out Jews.
I can't wait until red. returns as I didn't even see this thread originally.A few questions:1. How have historical groups acted when society has made it clear that they are inferior (Jews in Europe for the past 1000 years, Japanese in America during WWII, etc.)
2. Blacks in the U.S. are labeled as a single group, but do the results on the LSAT change if we’re dealing with blacks from the Caribbean or Africa (1st or 2nd generation) rather than those who’ve been in the U.S. for hundreds of years?
3. Has this always been the case for blacks in the United States or is this a relatively recent phenomenon?
4. If native americans only score 2 points lower when all other factors are held constant should that in any way change your conclusion on AA for blacks and latinos?
5. Why focus your efforts specifically on college and graduate school admissions?
6. If we institute AA as you’ve suggested, what happens to AA recipients after college is over?
I would like someone to take Red's place while she was gone and take up her second point-the LSAT is a stereotype threat test-cause I am not convinced. I see more merit in the Pygmalion effects theory, where african americans are thought to feel inferior from early in their lives-and not effects how they learn through elementary, middle school, high school, and college even if they are from the same economic class as the white peers. The Washington Post is doing the interesting series on the black male and the pressures they face, but my point is that while I think there is merit in the thread in that African Americans are psychologically disadvantaged, I don't think the important stuff happens at the test site, I think the more important stuff has been spread out over the say 22 years prior to them taking the test. Lastly, I don't want to be seen as someone attacking this thread, I think the stereotype threat is a real thing-, but I think using it to explain the differences in LSAT score is stretching the experiment further then the data should be-second I found the Pygmalion effects discussion as intriguing as the Stereotype threat position because it gives a complex answer that is hard to qualify, yet makes sense from my everyday experience.