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NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out

jgruber

Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2004, 03:27:28 PM »
Homosexuality is a sin according to the Church.
So is child rape, but let's hope that the Church can see the difference between the two.

I'm at a loss to understand why you want to equate the two.

The Catholic Church does not allow gays to become priests.

The Episcopal Church does and even has a gay bishop, but that is tearing their church apart.

no, im saying that i would think the catholic faith would condemn both acts and have similar stances on either, whether its two adults, a child and an adult, or three adults and three children. 

what exactly is the catholic church's stance on homosexuality then?

Why are you taking a simplismtic view?  Are you saying that what two adults men do in private equate to the rape of children?

isnt the church's position on child molestion and/or rape similar to its position on homosexuality - DONT DO IT?

it's not in the same category as child molestation.  That's rape.

I find it ironic because of the Church's position on homosexuality


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Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2004, 03:29:10 PM »
are there different degrees of sin?  if so, which is worse?

Homosexuality is a sin according to the Church.
So is child rape, but let's hope that the Church can see the difference between the two.

I'm at a loss to understand why you want to equate the two.

The Catholic Church does not allow gays to become priests.

The Episcopal Church does and even has a gay bishop, but that is tearing their church apart.

no, im saying that i would think the catholic faith would condemn both acts and have similar stances on either, whether its two adults, a child and an adult, or three adults and three children. 

what exactly is the catholic church's stance on homosexuality then?

Why are you taking a simplismtic view?  Are you saying that what two adults men do in private equate to the rape of children?

isnt the church's position on child molestion and/or rape similar to its position on homosexuality - DONT DO IT?

it's not in the same category as child molestation.  That's rape.

I find it ironic because of the Church's position on homosexuality


nathanielmark

Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2004, 03:29:30 PM »
i liked McGreevey before this...  if he is gay he has no business gettting married to a woman and having kids.  poor kids.  


Homosexuality is a sin according to the Church.
So is child rape, but let's hope that the Church can see the difference between the two.

I'm at a loss to understand why you want to equate the two.

The Catholic Church does not allow gays to become priests.

The Episcopal Church does and even has a gay bishop, but that is tearing their church apart.

no, im saying that i would think the catholic faith would condemn both acts and have similar stances on either, whether its two adults, a child and an adult, or three adults and three children. 

what exactly is the catholic church's stance on homosexuality then?

Why are you taking a simplismtic view?  Are you saying that what two adults men do in private equate to the rape of children?

isnt the church's position on child molestion and/or rape similar to its position on homosexuality - DONT DO IT?

it's not in the same category as child molestation.  That's rape.

I find it ironic because of the Church's position on homosexuality


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Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2004, 03:30:20 PM »
im with you on this...the kids and the wife are the biggest victims in this. 

i liked McGreevey before this...  if he is gay he has no business gettting married to a woman and having kids.  poor kids.  



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Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2004, 03:30:39 PM »
unless the wife was in on it too.

nathanielmark

Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2004, 03:32:19 PM »
she could have been for money, he for politics, but that would not make it right to do that to kids.

unless the wife was in on it too.

Ginatio

Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2004, 03:33:28 PM »
the wife's actually a lesbian, and the kids are hired actors...

buster

Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2004, 03:34:33 PM »
lol; did no one notice one of the kids is black?  ;)

the wife's actually a lesbian, and the kids are hired actors...

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Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2004, 03:34:58 PM »
Well, I think that, like a lot of Church teachings, its all a little bit confusing and complicated. What we were taught is that if someone is born gay, its not their fault, so its not a sin (there was no choice involved). However, if they act on it, by say, sleeping with another guy/girl, etc, then its a sin. Impure thoughts, solo sex, etc. would also be sins. Thats why the Church, unlike some other demoninations, has no un-gaying programs.

It is def. true that priests can't be openly gay or have gay relationships. Of course, some still are, but thats a whole 'nother topic.

Ginatio

Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2004, 03:35:31 PM »
and on social security...

lol; did no one notice one of the kids is black?  ;)

the wife's actually a lesbian, and the kids are hired actors...