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Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2004, 05:27:28 PM »
Homosexuality is a sin according to the Church.
So is child rape, but let's hope that the Church can see the difference between the two.

I'm at a loss to understand why you want to equate the two.

The Catholic Church does not allow gays to become priests.

The Episcopal Church does and even has a gay bishop, but that is tearing their church apart.

no, im saying that i would think the catholic faith would condemn both acts and have similar stances on either, whether its two adults, a child and an adult, or three adults and three children. 

what exactly is the catholic church's stance on homosexuality then?

Why are you taking a simplismtic view?  Are you saying that what two adults men do in private equate to the rape of children?

isnt the church's position on child molestion and/or rape similar to its position on homosexuality - DONT DO IT?

it's not in the same category as child molestation.  That's rape.

I find it ironic because of the Church's position on homosexuality


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Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2004, 05:29:10 PM »
are there different degrees of sin?  if so, which is worse?

Homosexuality is a sin according to the Church.
So is child rape, but let's hope that the Church can see the difference between the two.

I'm at a loss to understand why you want to equate the two.

The Catholic Church does not allow gays to become priests.

The Episcopal Church does and even has a gay bishop, but that is tearing their church apart.

no, im saying that i would think the catholic faith would condemn both acts and have similar stances on either, whether its two adults, a child and an adult, or three adults and three children. 

what exactly is the catholic church's stance on homosexuality then?

Why are you taking a simplismtic view?  Are you saying that what two adults men do in private equate to the rape of children?

isnt the church's position on child molestion and/or rape similar to its position on homosexuality - DONT DO IT?

it's not in the same category as child molestation.  That's rape.

I find it ironic because of the Church's position on homosexuality

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nathanielmark

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Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2004, 05:29:30 PM »
i liked McGreevey before this...  if he is gay he has no business gettting married to a woman and having kids.  poor kids.  


Homosexuality is a sin according to the Church.
So is child rape, but let's hope that the Church can see the difference between the two.

I'm at a loss to understand why you want to equate the two.

The Catholic Church does not allow gays to become priests.

The Episcopal Church does and even has a gay bishop, but that is tearing their church apart.

no, im saying that i would think the catholic faith would condemn both acts and have similar stances on either, whether its two adults, a child and an adult, or three adults and three children. 

what exactly is the catholic church's stance on homosexuality then?

Why are you taking a simplismtic view?  Are you saying that what two adults men do in private equate to the rape of children?

isnt the church's position on child molestion and/or rape similar to its position on homosexuality - DONT DO IT?

it's not in the same category as child molestation.  That's rape.

I find it ironic because of the Church's position on homosexuality


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Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2004, 05:30:20 PM »
im with you on this...the kids and the wife are the biggest victims in this. 

i liked McGreevey before this...  if he is gay he has no business gettting married to a woman and having kids.  poor kids.  


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Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2004, 05:30:39 PM »
unless the wife was in on it too.
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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2004, 05:32:19 PM »
she could have been for money, he for politics, but that would not make it right to do that to kids.

unless the wife was in on it too.

Ginatio

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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2004, 05:33:28 PM »
the wife's actually a lesbian, and the kids are hired actors...

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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2004, 05:34:33 PM »
lol; did no one notice one of the kids is black?  ;)

the wife's actually a lesbian, and the kids are hired actors...

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Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2004, 05:34:58 PM »
Well, I think that, like a lot of Church teachings, its all a little bit confusing and complicated. What we were taught is that if someone is born gay, its not their fault, so its not a sin (there was no choice involved). However, if they act on it, by say, sleeping with another guy/girl, etc, then its a sin. Impure thoughts, solo sex, etc. would also be sins. Thats why the Church, unlike some other demoninations, has no un-gaying programs.

It is def. true that priests can't be openly gay or have gay relationships. Of course, some still are, but thats a whole 'nother topic.

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Re: NJ Governor Resigns AND Comes Out
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2004, 05:35:31 PM »
and on social security...

lol; did no one notice one of the kids is black?  ;)

the wife's actually a lesbian, and the kids are hired actors...