Generic Religion - Science vs Religion

[When the two are in direct conflict, which do you believe?]

When the two are in direct conflict, which do you believe?

Science

 51 (52.6%)

Religion

 21 (21.6%)

Depends

 18 (18.6%)

i have no beliefs.

 7 (7.2%)

Total Members Voted: 90

[->Soon]

Which discipline is most trustworthy depends upon the claim in dispute. Do you have an example of a point at issue between science and religion?

evolution is always a good one.

[babyeatsdingo]

evolution is always a good one.

You think religion and science are at odds over evolution? What do you mean by evolution anyway?

Before we proceed let me warn you that this talk may go further than you're willing to go. I don't want to waste your time or frustrate you needlessly. If you'd like to stop now, just let me know and I'll back off.

[ladi]

I chose religion and actually believe in both. I do not believe that "true" religion and science are in direct conflict at all.  In fact, they go hand in hand.

[->Soon]

oh, this wasnt for me.  its for those that felt like arguing

you wouldnt be able to convince me theres a god unless i shook her hand

and scoped out her rack...   

     
( o )  ( o )

[awesomepossum]

So this is essentially a flame.

Jackass.

[awesomepossum]

No.  You haven't seen the scarrage?  Those pics are famous.

[babyeatsdingo]

Justified true belief is the classical meaning of knowledge, and is what I mean when I use the term. Do you have a better definition? Are you also saying a religious text like the Bible conveys no knowledge? Please clarify.

[babyeatsdingo]

Not true, actually.

What is the classical meaning of knowledge if not justified true belief? Doesn't Plato suggest that knowledge is akin to justified true belief in his Theaetetus dialogue?

The religious tend to be at odds with science over evolution.

Shouldn't they be? Though Scientific American et al. hope for our trust, I doubt very much that random mutation and natural selection are sufficient to completely explain the development of life from the simplest self-replicator to modern life. I am even more skeptical of the notion that the Archean earth produced so much as a nucleoside, never mind a self-replicator, in some purely natural and step-wise fashion.

Carrots and movie theater popcorn oil both provide Vitamin A.  At least here Vitamin A is the same in both examples.

I should say instead that the philosophy of religion/theology and science each provide knowledge.

[t...]

"Justified true belief" is a nonsense phrase that collapses in on itself. In any case, no-one today believes that JTB -- even if it were intelligible -- approximates knowledge.

Mark this as more evidence that comma = red.

[babyeatsdingo]

"Justified true belief" is a nonsense phrase that collapses in on itself. In any case, no-one today believes that JTB -- even if it were intelligible -- approximates knowledge.

Do you have a better definition of knowledge than justified true belief?

You doubt, so people should be skeptical.  Gotcha.

If my skepticism is warranted then, yes, others may or even should be skeptical as well.