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When the two are in direct conflict, which do you believe?

Science
 51 (52.6%)
Religion
 21 (21.6%)
Depends
 18 (18.6%)
i have no beliefs.
 7 (7.2%)

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Re: Science vs Religion
« Reply #40 on: June 21, 2007, 04:24:53 PM »
Which discipline is most trustworthy depends upon the claim in dispute. Do you have an example of a point at issue between science and religion?

evolution is always a good one.
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Re: Science vs Religion
« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2007, 04:32:14 PM »
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evolution is always a good one.

You think religion and science are at odds over evolution? What do you mean by evolution anyway?

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Re: Science vs Religion
« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2007, 09:28:12 PM »
I chose religion and actually believe in both. I do not believe that "true" religion and science are in direct conflict at all.  In fact, they go hand in hand.

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Re: Science vs Religion
« Reply #43 on: June 21, 2007, 09:45:26 PM »
oh, this wasnt for me.  its for those that felt like arguing

you wouldnt be able to convince me theres a god unless i shook her hand

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Re: Science vs Religion
« Reply #44 on: June 21, 2007, 09:49:39 PM »
So this is essentially a flame.

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Re: Science vs Religion
« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2007, 09:53:46 PM »
No.  You haven't seen the scarrage?  Those pics are famous.
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Re: Science vs Religion
« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2007, 01:05:01 AM »
Justified true belief is the classical meaning of knowledge, and is what I mean when I use the term. Do you have a better definition? Are you also saying a religious text like the Bible conveys no knowledge? Please clarify.

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Re: Science vs Religion
« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2007, 12:23:05 PM »
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Not true, actually.

What is the classical meaning of knowledge if not justified true belief? Doesn't Plato suggest that knowledge is akin to justified true belief in his Theaetetus dialogue?

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The religious tend to be at odds with science over evolution.

Shouldn't they be? Though Scientific American et al. hope for our trust, I doubt very much that random mutation and natural selection are sufficient to completely explain the development of life from the simplest self-replicator to modern life. I am even more skeptical of the notion that the Archean earth produced so much as a nucleoside, never mind a self-replicator, in some purely natural and step-wise fashion.

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Carrots and movie theater popcorn oil both provide Vitamin A.  At least here Vitamin A is the same in both examples.

I should say instead that the philosophy of religion/theology and science each provide knowledge.

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Re: Science vs Religion
« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2007, 06:17:47 PM »
"Justified true belief" is a nonsense phrase that collapses in on itself. In any case, no-one today believes that JTB -- even if it were intelligible -- approximates knowledge.

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Re: Science vs Religion
« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2007, 06:21:34 PM »
"Justified true belief" is a nonsense phrase that collapses in on itself. In any case, no-one today believes that JTB -- even if it were intelligible -- approximates knowledge.

Do you have a better definition of knowledge than justified true belief?


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You doubt, so people should be skeptical.  Gotcha.

If my skepticism is warranted then, yes, others may or even should be skeptical as well.