Yeah, but you just throw it out there.
Quote from: mugatu on May 15, 2006, 07:15:16 PMQuote from: cob on May 15, 2006, 07:11:47 PMQuote from: mugatu on May 15, 2006, 07:08:02 PMIt fits a general principle of Christianity to make women either a virgin or whore when women, like men, are much closer to the middle.This is just untrue.Provide counter examples. How many?You are making a claim and asking me to disprove you. That's fine.
Quote from: cob on May 15, 2006, 07:11:47 PMQuote from: mugatu on May 15, 2006, 07:08:02 PMIt fits a general principle of Christianity to make women either a virgin or whore when women, like men, are much closer to the middle.This is just untrue.Provide counter examples.
Quote from: mugatu on May 15, 2006, 07:08:02 PMIt fits a general principle of Christianity to make women either a virgin or whore when women, like men, are much closer to the middle.This is just untrue.
It fits a general principle of Christianity to make women either a virgin or whore when women, like men, are much closer to the middle.
I'm waiting...
Quote from: cob on May 15, 2006, 07:31:53 PMQuote from: cob on May 15, 2006, 07:22:16 PMQuote from: mugatu on May 15, 2006, 07:15:16 PMQuote from: cob on May 15, 2006, 07:11:47 PMQuote from: mugatu on May 15, 2006, 07:08:02 PMIt fits a general principle of Christianity to make women either a virgin or whore when women, like men, are much closer to the middle.This is just untrue.Provide counter examples. How many?You are making a claim and asking me to disprove you. That's fine.Quote from: mugatu on May 15, 2006, 07:28:13 PMI'm waiting...So am I.You should supply the number of examples you feel is sufficient for your side of the debate.
Quote from: cob on May 15, 2006, 07:22:16 PMQuote from: mugatu on May 15, 2006, 07:15:16 PMQuote from: cob on May 15, 2006, 07:11:47 PMQuote from: mugatu on May 15, 2006, 07:08:02 PMIt fits a general principle of Christianity to make women either a virgin or whore when women, like men, are much closer to the middle.This is just untrue.Provide counter examples. How many?You are making a claim and asking me to disprove you. That's fine.Quote from: mugatu on May 15, 2006, 07:28:13 PMI'm waiting...So am I.
Quote from: cob on May 15, 2006, 07:37:56 PMPost a reasonable number and I'll check it tomorrow. Also, if you care to back up your claim, that would be nice. Dude...you need to prove your point. I don't need to help you.Mary Magdalene is a whore.Mary, the mother of Jesus, is a virgin. There you go.
Post a reasonable number and I'll check it tomorrow. Also, if you care to back up your claim, that would be nice.
It fits a general principle of Christianity to make women either a virgin or whore...
Hey ... don't forget it's woman's fault we're in this mess, with that damn apple and all.
This is a complete waste of time...Even if Christianity is a complete and total unmitigable farce, people have a vested interest in avoiding this realization. Those who worship the religion would not like to think that every Sunday of their entire life has been wasted. Moreover, most religious people see the religion as a parental figure. It's like finding out your father is an axe murderer - even if you see unquestionable evidence, you will refuse to believe it. And it is a lot easier to deny it if you have an entire congregation disbelieving with you.And those who are in power (religious, economic, political, whatever) know that it's easier to keep people in line if they believe in an invisible force that will punish wrongdoing post-death. And they are much easier to manipulate. For instance, Bush never would have been elected even once if he hadn't been able to capture the vote of anti-abortionists who were manipulated into voting for any agenda that includes pro-life.
Quote from: terralily on May 15, 2006, 08:00:43 PMQuote from: gillesthegreat on May 15, 2006, 07:10:23 PMHey ... don't forget it's woman's fault we're in this mess, with that damn apple and all.STFU...Adam could've thrown the apple aside, thought for himself and said no!The way Milton presents it he probably did the right thing by acting out of love. HTH.
Quote from: gillesthegreat on May 15, 2006, 07:10:23 PMHey ... don't forget it's woman's fault we're in this mess, with that damn apple and all.STFU...Adam could've thrown the apple aside, thought for himself and said no!
Quote from: terralily on May 15, 2006, 08:13:18 PMQuote from: halfie on May 15, 2006, 08:10:19 PMQuote from: terralily on May 15, 2006, 08:00:43 PMQuote from: gillesthegreat on May 15, 2006, 07:10:23 PMHey ... don't forget it's woman's fault we're in this mess, with that damn apple and all.STFU...Adam could've thrown the apple aside, thought for himself and said no!The way Milton presents it he probably did the right thing by acting out of love. HTH.Milton is not in the bible though...(Note it has been a VERY long time since I read Paradise Lost) and people base religious misogyny on this fact. It pisses me off. Eve didn't cram the apple down his throat...he could have said no. Whatever is reasons for not...it was his choice not to. A - Milton should be the authoritative Christian textB - Oh right, I kind of forgot about that. I'm not a fan of religion for that reason (not just specific to misogyny, but all of the religious idiocy).
Quote from: halfie on May 15, 2006, 08:10:19 PMQuote from: terralily on May 15, 2006, 08:00:43 PMQuote from: gillesthegreat on May 15, 2006, 07:10:23 PMHey ... don't forget it's woman's fault we're in this mess, with that damn apple and all.STFU...Adam could've thrown the apple aside, thought for himself and said no!The way Milton presents it he probably did the right thing by acting out of love. HTH.Milton is not in the bible though...(Note it has been a VERY long time since I read Paradise Lost) and people base religious misogyny on this fact. It pisses me off. Eve didn't cram the apple down his throat...he could have said no. Whatever is reasons for not...it was his choice not to.
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