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Re: Jews: Why are we not a URM?
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2006, 09:58:26 AM »
I guess I just need to get the hell out of Virginia.  I'm sorry if I jumped on anyone, but it's frustrating here.  I'm headed to NY in the fall b/c I couldn't get in at UVA, George Mason, and William and Mary.  I guess I'm just frustrated that in this type of environment in VA that we don't get any consideration at VA schools.  I know we're well-represented in the legal profession.  

Also, just so you guys know.  There are PACs who are trying to petitiion the government for URM status for Jews.  So I'm not alone in my thinking.  
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Re: Jews: Why are we not a URM?
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2006, 09:59:27 AM »


Also, just so you guys know.  There are PACs who are trying to petitiion the government for URM status for Jews.  So I'm not alone in my thinking. 

wow, Im so gonna bite my tongue on this one...
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Re: Jews: Why are we not a URM?
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2006, 09:59:38 AM »
I guess I just need to get the hell out of Virginia.  I'm sorry if I jumped on anyone, but it's frustrating here.  I'm headed to NY in the fall b/c I couldn't get in at UVA, George Mason, and William and Mary.  I guess I'm just frustrated that in this type of environment in VA that we don't get any consideration at VA schools.  I know we're well-represented in the legal profession. 

Also, just so you guys know.  There are PACs who are trying to petitiion the government for URM status for Jews.  So I'm not alone in my thinking. 

fair enough.  the application process can be frustrating for all involved.  good luck wherever you end up!
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Re: Jews: Why are we not a URM?
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2006, 10:00:04 AM »
If you are going to say that there are PACs for everything.  I know.  That wasn't my point. 
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Re: Jews: Why are we not a URM?
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2006, 10:02:07 AM »
I guess I just need to get the hell out of Virginia.  I'm sorry if I jumped on anyone, but it's frustrating here.  I'm headed to NY in the fall b/c I couldn't get in at UVA, George Mason, and William and Mary.  I guess I'm just frustrated that in this type of environment in VA that we don't get any consideration at VA schools.  I know we're well-represented in the legal profession.  

Also, just so you guys know.  There are PACs who are trying to petitiion the government for URM status for Jews.  So I'm not alone in my thinking.  

There are PACs for many causes that aren't justified. Maybe you were not admitted because you didn't have the grades!

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Re: Jews: Why are we not a URM?
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2006, 10:02:30 AM »
because they're not underrepresented.  discrimination isn't the focus of according urm status. 

I understood URM status to be a little different than this. Many groups are under-represented. But the reason for that under-represenation in blacks, latinos, Native Americans, etc. is because the vast majority of that group don't have the means or the resources to gain that representation. Blacks were enslaved for hundreds of years. Latinos are stuck at the bottom rung of our hierarchy ladder. Native Americans have been systematically screwed over by our government.

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Re: Jews: Why are we not a URM?
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2006, 10:03:09 AM »
I do see your point though about Jewish people in the south.  I lived in Dallas all my life and I never once knew a Jewish person.  In fact the only time I ever had any contact with someone that was Jewish was when I worked at a summer camp and there were a bunch of Jewish kids there.
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Re: Jews: Why are we not a URM?
« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2006, 10:03:27 AM »
I think you completely missed my point.  Discrimination affects grades.  Hence no admittance.  
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Re: Jews: Why are we not a URM?
« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2006, 10:05:45 AM »
BDizzle,

You're right there aren't many of us in the South.  To give you an idea about how many of my friends know Jewish people, I will tell you that most of them entered my name in their cell phones as "Jew," "Joo," or even "I called Jew yesterday." 
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Re: Jews: Why are we not a URM?
« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2006, 10:05:56 AM »
because they're not underrepresented.  discrimination isn't the focus of according urm status. 

I understood URM status to be a little different than this. Many groups are under-represented. But the reason for that under-represenation in blacks, latinos, Native Americans, etc. is because the vast majority of that group don't have the means or the resources to gain that representation. Blacks were enslaved for hundreds of years. Latinos are stuck at the bottom rung of our hierarchy ladder. Native Americans have been systematically screwed over by our government.

"Historically, minority group members have been underrepresented in the legal profession. A substantial discrepancy remains between the percentage of minority members in society versus the percentage in the legal profession. To promote diversity in the profession, all LSAC-member law schools actively seek qualified African American, Hispanic, Asian, and American Indian students as well as other students of color.  (In addition, many schools consider such factors as economic and educational disadvantage when considering a candidate for admission.) Law schools find that diversity within the classroom enriches the learning process for all students." LSAC - http://www.lsac.org/LSAC.asp?url=/lsac/faqs-and-support-minority-applicants.asp
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