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jvan2619

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Anyone still flip-floping?
« on: April 27, 2006, 09:29:10 AM »
Just curious :)

I have narrowed it down to two schools and keep thinking that I've decided on one of them, but keep flip floping!  This is so frustrating!

I sent in deposits to both, but they are two completely different schools (albeit in the same city).   

Anyone else?  Or am I alone here :(

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Re: Anyone still flip-floping?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2006, 09:41:44 AM »
Oddly enough, I knew the moment I walked into the law school at W&M.  It just felt "right."  Fortunately all objective evidence suggests that gut feeling was right so that's where I am going.

What are you deciding between and what are your pros/cons for each?
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Re: Anyone still flip-floping?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2006, 10:43:44 AM »
That is wonderful that you knew from the start!  I keep thinking that I know, but it never sticks.  MAN!  First a little about me:  married, daughter, desire to do Real Estate law, no big law ambitions (yet!).

Here are the two,

-  both tier 4 schools
-  same city

School 1-  Extremely friendly atmosphere
-  Staff dedicated to your success
-  Smaller classes
-  New
-  Beautiful facilities
-  Mid-terms (so your final isn't the whole grade)
-  Three "core" classes first semester (they turn year long classes in to single semesters, but have less...i.e. no property first semester)
-  Theory focused

School 2
-  Flexible scheduling (appealing due to my family)
-  Focuses on being a lawyer instead of theory
-  Great alumni base locally
-  Wonderful in-twon reputation (I plan on staying in the area)
-  Fantastic legal writing program
-  Rated #1for Non-trad students (this one might give it away:))
-  Greater selection of upper-level classes

Thoughts anyone???

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Re: Anyone still flip-floping?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2006, 11:04:27 AM »
For a T4, I would also be looking at the curve, the graduation rate/attrition rate, bar passage rate, and employment rates.  Those numbers can support some of the positives you listed.

If either is Stetson, I'd go there.  (Are they T3 yet?)
Here's how it went for me for Fall 2006 admission:
168/3.67
In: Emory($$), UGA ($), W&M ($$), GW($)
Waitlisted:American(W), UVA (W)
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=aerynn

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Re: Anyone still flip-floping?
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2006, 11:35:53 AM »
Thanks for the feedback!

archival - I agree with your comments.  Thank you for the validation.

aerynn - The attrition rate is worse at school #2 but I think it has more to do with the high population of non-trads (i.e. family commitments and work).  The employment rates are the same and the bar passage rate is a tad higher at school #1.  While I did get accepted to Stetson, we are moving for my husbands' job to another city.

Thanks again guys and gals!  Any other feedback would be greatly apreciated...always good to hear other non-trads' thoughts.

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Re: Anyone still flip-floping?
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2006, 11:59:12 AM »
I guess I would have to pick school #1, based on employment and lower attrition.  Even if you attribute attrition at school #2 to the higher population of non-trads, you have to figure those folks are motivated to finish and not drop out with debt and no JD.  Plus, non-trads tend to have thought hard about school first and are less likely to be doing law school just for the heck of it.  Look at programs like GW's part time program.  I bet there are a lot of non-trads there, but not a killer attrition rate.  Since you are also a non-trad, if non-trads are dropping out they can't be as friendly to non-trads as they seem, right?

This is just what I would be thinking.  Too bad about Stetson.  They are an amazing school for their tier, the location is perfect for a family and it should be easy enough to get a job in Tampa/Clearwater for a Significant Other . . .if it is not possible, it isn't, but they would be my first pick of any T3 or T4 school.  Plus the Real Estate market in FL is booming with no sign of slow down.  I think Central Florida is currently one of the top 10 markets for real estate, which means lots of law opportunities too.
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Waitlisted:American(W), UVA (W)
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Re: Anyone still flip-floping?
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2006, 12:01:12 PM »
I agree with archival, there is more upside to school #2, especialy a good alumni base. Local Alumni help you get interviews in firms that you regularly would not look at you becuase of your grades or school choice. Also the flexible scheduling will probably really help academicly because you'll be able to concentrate on school rather than worring about childcare or other problems. Thats just my opinion.
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Re: Anyone still flip-floping?
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2006, 12:07:01 PM »
Again, you all ROCK!  Don't know why, but hearing other peoples take on it helps :)

aerynn - yea, it is too bad that I can't stay here and go to Stetson for the reasons you mentioned.  As a note to anyone else looking at it, EVERYONE I have talked to hear in Tampa was under the impression that it was a top law school.  Very good local rep. 

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Re: Anyone still flip-floping?
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2006, 12:10:20 PM »
They are really well respected in Florida and in certain practice areas, such as trial law and elder law.  Their elder law reputation is national, in fact.  (I have insider info ;)  )  Elder law is just not a hot enough area that it matters to those outside that specialty.

Local rep is probably a prime consideration.  After that, I would go with the attrition/employment numbers.  I would totally discount legal writing rep, since law firms don't seem to think law students can write worth a damn anyway and it is the red-headed stepchild of law school curriculum.
Here's how it went for me for Fall 2006 admission:
168/3.67
In: Emory($$), UGA ($), W&M ($$), GW($)
Waitlisted:American(W), UVA (W)
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/display.php?user=aerynn

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Re: Anyone still flip-floping?
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2006, 12:45:06 PM »
#1 looks really appealing to me because they have mid-terms!  Don't do it though, go to school #2.  With other things being similar, I would pick the school with the best legal writing program and alumni base.