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#### dbgirl

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##### Re: Can I apply as Black if I'm 10% black?
« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2006, 03:31:10 AM »
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Denk, you are trying to make a simple situation out of my complicated ethnic heritage.

No, really, I was just having fun with the math.

I believe that the whole concept of saying "1/4 Black" is silly in so many ways - mostly because it devalues the "Black" attribute - as if there's this thing that's pure "whiteness", and everything else is a dilution.
I agree with you here.
It's actually the whiteness that's diluting things.
When you have somebody dying because they are poor and black or poor and white or because of whatever they are ... that erases everything that's great about this country.

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#### Billy Pilgrim

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##### Re: Can I apply as Black if I'm 10% black?
« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2006, 02:31:26 PM »
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Denk, you are trying to make a simple situation out of my complicated ethnic heritage.

No, really, I was just having fun with the math.

I believe that the whole concept of saying "1/4 Black" is silly in so many ways - mostly because it devalues the "Black" attribute - as if there's this thing that's pure "whiteness", and everything else is a dilution.

True, good point.

#### SuicideNixon

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##### Re: Can I apply as Black if I'm 10% black?
« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2006, 03:39:54 PM »
Just to be a total dork - it's impossible to be "10% black", as the original poster wrote, isn't it?

Consider this a Logic Game:

I believe that it's only possible to be this fraction:

1 / (x ^ 2), where x >= 0.

In order words, you can only be 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 black, etc...  Ok - that's it -- with a mistake like that you shouldn't go to law school.

Actually, you need an additional assumption: that each person has a finite number of ancestors. Otherwise you could construct a series SUM 1/(n^2) = 1/10th. doing so is simple in fact. but assuming that each person only has a finite number of ancestors:

Here's a number-theoretic proof: each person only has 2 parents, so the demoniator of every person's ethnic fractions are divisible by 2 only. but 10 also has 5 as a prime factor, hence it is impossible to be 1/10th black.
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#### dbgirl

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##### Re: Can I apply as Black if I'm 10% black?
« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2006, 10:51:32 PM »
Just to be a total dork - it's impossible to be "10% black", as the original poster wrote, isn't it?

Consider this a Logic Game:

I believe that it's only possible to be this fraction:

1 / (x ^ 2), where x >= 0.

In order words, you can only be 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 black, etc...  Ok - that's it -- with a mistake like that you shouldn't go to law school.

Actually, you need an additional assumption: that each person has a finite number of ancestors. Otherwise you could construct a series SUM 1/(n^2) = 1/10th. doing so is simple in fact. but assuming that each person only has a finite number of ancestors:

Here's a number-theoretic proof: each person only has 2 parents, so the demoniator of every person's ethnic fractions are divisible by 2 only. but 10 also has 5 as a prime factor, hence it is impossible to be 1/10th black.
However it's possible to be very close to 1/10th black.
When you have somebody dying because they are poor and black or poor and white or because of whatever they are ... that erases everything that's great about this country.

-TMcGraw

http://www.wm3.org/splash.php

#### SuicideNixon

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##### Re: Can I apply as Black if I'm 10% black?
« Reply #44 on: June 05, 2006, 06:17:28 PM »
Just to be a total dork - it's impossible to be "10% black", as the original poster wrote, isn't it?

Consider this a Logic Game:

I believe that it's only possible to be this fraction:

1 / (x ^ 2), where x >= 0.

In order words, you can only be 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 black, etc...  Ok - that's it -- with a mistake like that you shouldn't go to law school.

Actually, you need an additional assumption: that each person has a finite number of ancestors. Otherwise you could construct a series SUM 1/(n^2) = 1/10th. doing so is simple in fact. but assuming that each person only has a finite number of ancestors:

Here's a number-theoretic proof: each person only has 2 parents, so the demoniator of every person's ethnic fractions are divisible by 2 only. but 10 also has 5 as a prime factor, hence it is impossible to be 1/10th black.
However it's possible to be very close to 1/10th black.

yea
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#### tired3L

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##### Re: Can I apply as Black if I'm 10% black?
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2006, 10:09:33 PM »
I have no clue about what percentage of any race I am.  But, I know I have a relative named "Zanuba" with no last name.  I look white so I marked "white" in the box.

However, I have since been told in the future to mark "decline to state" or "unknown."  That is probably more honest anyway.

#### InterFC1

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##### Re: Can I apply as Black if I'm 10% black?
« Reply #46 on: September 12, 2006, 09:01:20 AM »
I believe that the US Census defines a minority as one that is being at least 1/8th of that race.  For example, a person is considered black even if he/she has only one great-grandfather that was black.  Even if the rest of his family was of Swedish origin, this person could declare minority status.  I think that the same criteria could be utilized for LS admission purposes.

#### JTG

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##### Re: Can I apply as Black if I'm 10% black?
« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2006, 12:17:39 AM »
I believe that the US Census defines a minority as one that is being at least 1/8th of that race.  For example, a person is considered black even if he/she has only one great-grandfather that was black.  Even if the rest of his family was of Swedish origin, this person could declare minority status.  I think that the same criteria could be utilized for LS admission purposes.

YES! One great grandfather!

#### jillibean

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##### Re: Can I apply as Black if I'm 10% black?
« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2007, 08:53:43 AM »
I'm black, I could pass as white but I'm 1/2-- which is way more that 10%. At that point you might as well stay white especially if you are only claiming it for URM status and don't mention it any other time. I find it kind of disqusting but thats just me
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#### nerdphanie

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##### Re: Can I apply as Black if I'm 10% black?
« Reply #49 on: March 07, 2007, 12:48:38 AM »
I think it'd be dishonest to just check a box, but it might be worth mentioning in a diversity statement if you identify as being black. It bothers me when applicants use a smidgeon of blood solely for admissions purposes when they don't identify as a minority at all.