going back to the original topic... YEA! WTF! and how come they never f-ing fit the actual toilet seat? they're always too small, so I've got half of the damn thing hovering over the back half of the bowl, meanwhile I'm perched on the front half, trying to keep the front half from falling into the bowl, while at the same time trying not to *&^% on the back half, which is, again, hovering over the f-ing bowl... it's so goddamn annoying that i've started going home over lunch to take a dump. why can't those stupid engineers get it right? i mean, honestly... all you gotta do is cut a sheet of wax paper or whatever the hell it is to fit a standard bowl.