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[BTK]

Is anything below t14 considered tier 2.  Why do the rankings go from top 100 to tier 3? It seems logical that aythining below 50 would be considered tier 2.

[shae]

i always though of HYS then Columbia, then t14, then t20, then t50, t3, t4

[BTK]

The generally accepted formulation is that there's HYS, then top14, then the first tier which extends to 50, then the second tier to 100, etc.  USNWR only started calling it the "top 100" instead of T1 and T2 last year.

That's what I thought.  Someone tried to tell me that UCLA was a tier 2 school. It turns out it was just a snobby little prick who was trying to take the wind out of my sails.  Thanks for the help.

[Happy_Weasel]

UCLA is #15, isn't it? What's the deal with the top 14 anyway?

["V"]

Not that I'm in a t14, but I would think the rating of prestige WITHIN the top tier, if there must be one, would be the top 10. But t14 is pretty clearly the designation.

[shae]

its t14 b/c those 14 schools have (for the most part) ALWAYS been the top 14 schools and they do appear to be more national than any schools below them.

my uninformed opinion is that UCLA may (in the next 10 years or so) become a national law school because of its location (kind of like NYU)

[Happy_Weasel]

 I think it should be Top 20. UCLA, Vandebilt, Texas, George Town, WUSTL and Minnesota are pretty national to me. Hell, maybe T25. Iowa, ND and BU are options that I would go to over say, Georgetown or Virginia. But I am TTT, so I don't really count.

Though to get a fair shot at the T14, a 165 is basically auto-reject. Anything below that in the first tier is 160 for auto-reject and 165 for auto-admit. Though the top 7 really needs a 170 and a 180 for those with B (3.2-3.6) averages.

What's interesting is that there tends to be 5-point steps for each level of selectivity.

175-180 Harvard and Yale
170-175 Not quite Harvard
165-170 The rest of T14
160-165 T1
155-160 T2
150-155 TTT
under 150- GOOD LUCK

[buju]

I believe that all of (and only) the schools in the T14 have been in the top 10 at some point.  They shift around amongst themselves from year to year, but they are always more selective than any schools after them.

[Happy_Weasel]

Yeah. That's probably why. They are the only schools where a 165 will get you a waitlist unless you have under an A-(3.4) average and are not worth applying to no matter how high you LSAT if you have less than a B+(3.2) average.