Quote from: red. on April 04, 2006, 07:51:02 AMIn order to do what? Prove that you have more than just a basic command of rhetoric.Statements like, “It's a shortcut way of asking you to read his work as though you were an educated person, i.e. critically. Either way, it doesn't much matter to me” and, “Think while reading it and you'll discover it for yourself. Alternatively, skip the thinking part and take my word for it” suggest that you not only think that the facts on your side, but that you’re a critical thinker who has examined the evidence and, in this case, found Sowell’s arguments not only unconvincing, but incorrect. Considering that, to this point, you’ve only mustered the equivalent of, “he’s a conservative idiot who makes poor arguments while working for a distasteful organization,” it is difficult to consider you case for this as anything but rhetorical. I could say many of the same things about prominent liberals but, in light of statistics we just went through, that seems a tad weak. My best guess is that you have the typical opinions and a typical amount of research to back them up, i.e. none whatsoever.
In order to do what?
#1. Thomas Sowell in his entirety, available in video, audio, and text transcripts at the bottom of the page. Listen or read before you make up your mind. His #2. study on AA in 80 countries around the world shows that AA wherever it has been instated #3. has never worked. That is, the stated goal of elevating a disadvantaged minority group though preferences has never been realized, and the AA that was promised to be temporary always #4. continues into permanency (i.e. 25 years later looking back when Justice O' Connor said AA wont be needed 25 years from now, in the 1970's).Mr. Sowell:http://www.uncommonknowledge.org/900/902.html
I want to hear why Red thinks formally making racism against whites an institution through affirmative action will help end "subtle" institutional racism against blacks.
I generally just lurk, as I just don't have the time or energy required to contribute substantially to many of these threads...especially in some of the other forums, but I'd agree with some of Breadboy's assertations concerning Ms. Red. I find her entertaining, and perhaps she doesn't feel she needs to "prove" herself to newer posters because she's obviously part of the LSD intelligensia. So she's forgiven to post mostly fluff, highly cynical opinions on things that are just so goddamn obvious that it's insulting to her that others don't see it her way. Oh wait...she reads 4 to 5 books a week. While spending a good portion of her day posting on this board. And (I presume) carrying a full time job, other hobbies, a social life, volunteering? I suppose that's possible, if you spend 4 to 5 hours a day, every day, reading. Let's figure this out. 4 to 5 books a week. Average about 300 pages per book. That's 1200 to 1500 pages a week. Divide that by 7 days...that's 170 to 215 pages a day. If you read about 50 pages an hour (which I doubt, if one is to read "critically", as you imply that you do)...that's between 3 to 4.5 hours a day. Yeah, it's possible. But I call bull. That's just me. I read a ton (god knows, I was a lit. and philosophy major in UG), but I never came near that amount of reading when having to read critically. And no...this has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I haven't read Sowell, and I know sh*t about him. But I'll admit that, and spare everyone the pretense and pomposity. And the sad thing is...quite often you actually make some great points, but it's completely diluted by your sanctimonious presentation. And what, praytell, is the "argument to be made against AA", in your eyes and words?
Quote from: hank rearden on April 04, 2006, 02:32:55 AMI want to hear why Red thinks formally making racism against whites an institution through affirmative action will help end "subtle" institutional racism against blacks.I don't want to speak for Red, but I don't think she's pro AA. At least not how it is currently contructed.
My next response to the fluff is forthcoming, but I'd just like to point out that red registered on December 10, 2005. I registered on February 20, 2005. I've been here much longer than most of you (I remember the last class of interesting posters), mostly lurking until I feel compelled to speak.