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KURDS TO THE RESCUE: as mediators and US ally...

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Re: KURDS as mediators and US ally...
« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2006, 06:01:11 AM »
EU executive urges more rights for Kurds in Turkey
06 Apr 2006 16:26:14 GMT

Source: Reuters
 
STRASBOURG, France, April 6 (Reuters) - The European Commission and European lawmakers urged Turkey on Thursday to grant Kurds more economic and cultural rights and voiced concern over violence in the country's southeast.

Sixteen people have been killed and more than 300 injured in street clashes since last week between Kurdish protesters and police sparked by the funerals of 14 Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) rebels killed in clashes with troops.

"The (European) Commission is concerned about ... the outburst of violence and terrorist attacks," EU Health Commissioner Markos Kyprianou told members of the European Parliament.

Kyprianou, speaking on behalf of the EU executive, recalled that the PKK was included in the bloc's list of terrorist organisations but urged the Turkish government to fulfill its commitments to improve the rights of Kurds.

"We urge the Turkish government to address in a comprehensive manner, and not only from a security point of view, the problems of this region and of its people," he said.

Ankara has lifted restrictions on the Kurdish language and culture in recent years, hoping to further its bid to join the 25-nation EU, but critics say it needs to do much more.

More than 30,000 people have been killed in the separatist conflict since the PKK took up arms against the state in 1984 with the aim of carving out an ethnic homeland in the mainly Kurdish southeast of Turkey.

Turkey began membership talks with the EU last October, and Kyprianou reminded Turkey that ensuring cultural diversity was a condition for accession.

"The Turkish government should take action with a view to enhancing and ensuring economic, social and cultural opportunities for all Turkish citizens," he said.

Kyprianou also called on Turkey to facilitate the return of displaced Kurds to their region of origin and stop deploying state-armed militiamen in villages.

The protection of Kurds' rights is "an absolute precondition for membership of the EU", said Emine Bozkurt, of the European Parliament's Socialist group.

"If violence ceases, then the tanks must leave the streets of villages and towns of southeast Turkey," she said.

Several lawmakers also urged Turkey to engage into a political dialogue with moderate Kurds.
 


this just mean kurds going to expect u.s. to fight another war on their behalf.

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Re: KURDS as mediators and US ally...
« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2006, 06:03:38 AM »
Iraqi PM on brink of climbdown after Sunnis and Kurds refuse to work with him

Jonathan Steele in Baghdad
Tuesday April 11, 2006
The Guardian


Ibrahim Jaafari's chances of staying on as Iraq's prime minister were dramatically reduced last night after Sunni and Kurdish leaders announced they would not budge from their refusal to work with him.
Members of the Shia parties which nominated Mr Jaafari as their candidate and stood by him for two months were engaged in frantic last-minute lobbying ahead of an expected climbdown. Under pressure from their religious leaders, as well as the Iraqi media and the US and Britain, the Shia politicians will meet today to decide whether to choose a different candidate.

After weeks of paralysis, the moment of choice seems to have arrived. The Shias established a three-man committee on Sunday to approach the other groups for their views.

Shias emerged from the December elections as the largest group in parliament but with less than half the seats, forcing them to find allies. There is widespread agreement that Iraq needs a government of national unity to handle the security crisis and halt a slide into civil war.

Mr Jaafari's hopes of a softening in attitude by Sunnis and Kurds were dashed when Dhafir al-Ani, spokesman for the Iraqi Accordance Front, the biggest Sunni Arab bloc, said it had told the Shia committee the Front continued to reject him. They urged the Shias to come up with new names.

Iraq's President Jalal Talabani, one of the main Kurdish leaders, gave the same message on behalf of the Kurdish alliance. Mr Talabani, who is expected to be re-confirmed in his post when parliament meets, has had almost no relations with the prime minister for months. When they attended the funeral of Saudi Arabia's King Fahd in August and the UN general assembly in New York in September, they flew in separate planes.

The fourth group in parliament, the secular block led by Ayad Allawi, is also against him, leaving him isolated. If Mr Jaafari refuses to give up his claim to lead Iraq for another four years, today's meeting could hand the issue to parliament. But the arithmetic runs against the prime minister, and he may decide it is more dignified to give way within the Shia block rather than be voted down by MPs.




so, let's review:  kurds causing stalemate in iraqi government.

that sure some good "ally" u.s. have.

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Re: KURDS as mediators and US ally...
« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2006, 06:08:29 AM »
Obaid points out that a return to the status quo ante is unrealistic. "What is clear is that this new generation is very certain that they do not want to be part of Iraq," writes the Saudi security specialist.

so, let's review:  kurds not at all in support of u.s. goal to create united iraq.  they just playing along (very) little bit for now until they proclaim independence and new war starts.

wow, with "allies" like this...

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Re: KURDS as mediators and US ally...
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2006, 06:13:00 AM »
External forces on Iraq's new government
The US and Iran should put their interests aside and work together to stabilize Iraq.

By Joost Hiltermann

AMMAN, JORDAN Halabja is a town in Iraqi Kurdistan shaded by mountains, behind which lies Iran. On March 16, Kurds converged there to hold their annual commemoration of the Iraqi chemical attack that killed thousands in 1988. Normally it is an occasion for visits by Kurdish and foreign dignitaries, speeches extolling Kurdish suffering and advocating independence, and even some festive activities. When I visited last year, a power hang glider entertained the crowds by buzzing low over the Halabja memorial.

This year, the event took a different turn. Townspeople had long accused the Kurdish leadership of exploiting the gas attack for political gain and withholding foreign assistance intended for the attack's survivors, many still suffering from debilitating illnesses. Instead of joining the commemoration, Halabjans demonstrated at the memorial, which houses a museum, an art exhibit, and a conference room. Guards of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), one of the two main Kurdish parties, panicked and opened fire. One demonstrator died, several others were injured. Enraged, the crowd stormed the monument erected to the memory of their loved ones and burned it to the ground.

Deeply embarrassed, the PUK quickly pointed a finger at Iran. The Iranians have long meddled in Kurdish politics, supporting Islamist groups to check the secular parties' power. The Islamists are particularly strong in Halabja, where they gave rise to violent offshoots, such as Ansar al-Islam. Informed observers promptly offered a plausible explanation for an Iranian hand in the March 16 fracas: The "spontaneous" demonstration was a warning from Tehran to PUK leader Jalal Talabani, Iraq's president, to stop opposing the Shiite coalition's candidate for prime minister, Ibrahim Jaafari. Whether true or not, many Kurds certainly saw the event as an Iranian message.

The Kurds do not want a Jaafari-led government. During his first term, they say, he hindered their quest to gradually incorporate oil-rich Kirkuk into the Kurdish region. But their challenge to Mr. Jaafari is seen by many Iraqis as part of a struggle over their country's future between two bigger players: the United States and Iran.

The Shiite coalition, the United Iraqi Alliance (UIA), was established in 2004 to parlay the Shiites' demographic majority into political dominance. Supported by Iran, the strategy proved spectacularly successful. The UIA convincingly won both the January and December 2005 elections. Since then, Iran and other stakeholders have sought to maintain the Shiites' unity in the face of growing instability and violence. In an internal poll in February, Jaafari defeated his main rival, Adel Abdel-Mahdi, by a single vote. Mr. Abdel-Mahdi is a senior official in the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI), an Islamist party that has contributed heavily to the recent surge in sectarian violence.
Although SCIRI is generally considered an Iranian proxy, Tehran actually prefers Jaafari to head the next government, because Abdel-Mahdi, despite his affiliation, is a pragmatist with secular rather than Islamist credentials who enjoys strong support in Washington. The Bush administration, in turn, considers Jaafari incapable of containing the violence. Moreover, Jaafari is beholden to the radical Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, who has repeatedly called for US forces to leave.

Kurdish opposition to Jaafari has been the main obstacle to the formation of a national unity government. The Kurds allied themselves with an array of Sunni Arab and secular parties to pressure the UIA to withdraw Jaafari's candidacy in favor of Abdel-Mahdi or another secular candidate. Even should they fail in their bid, the recent compromise agreement to set up an advisory national security council may undermine Jaafari's power. The rationale behind the council's creation was to dilute the power of a UIA-led government.

Whatever government emerges from this tug of war, in other words, will be weak. This is a dangerous prospect in a country that balances on the brink of civil war. The irony is that neither Iran nor the US can afford to press their power struggle too far. Both support Iraq's territorial integrity, a principle threatened by spiraling conflict. If Tehran was indeed behind the Halabja demonstration that turned violent, it would be playing with fire by heightening tensions.

Washington likewise finds itself under pressure to withdraw from Iraq even as it sees Iranian influence spread. Attempts to contain the Shiite parties that won the elections could unleash popular anger against the occupation.

Iran's recent decision to begin discussion with the US concerning Iraq may well be chiefly informed by its wish to deflect pressure stemming from the nuclear crisis, but both countries also share an interest in finding ways to stabilize Iraq. Both sides have much to gain and even more to lose in the current standoff. There couldn't be a better time for both to sit down together and put their cards on the table in an all-out effort to save Iraq and, thereby, their own vital interests in the Gulf.


that thing about being separatist:  you may not be able to get property settlement you want.

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Re: KURDS as mediators and US ally...
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2006, 11:08:23 PM »
... :) :) :)...somebody is very proud of julie fern buster today.... :) :)

aye'll just preface this with that....get me?

not one hypocorism...ad hominem...remonstrative...nor calling of names...

more like it...keep it up...

first u cursed...knot often for future?  8)
but:}

"that thing about being separatist:  you may not be able to get property settlement you want."

that thing about being separatist:  you may not be able to get property settlement you want.

ben franklin was a man who loved philly if aye am not mistaken...no?
how do you explain the declaration of independence.


explain... ;)

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Re: KURDS as mediators and US ally...
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2006, 06:02:19 AM »
you putz.  franklin always willing to work with others.  you work only with she-goats.

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Re: KURDS as mediators and US ally...
« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2006, 02:01:15 PM »
your wisdom undeniable.

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« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2006, 07:03:42 PM »

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Re: KURDS as mediators and US ally...
« Reply #48 on: April 22, 2006, 11:17:34 AM »
no matter how ya slice it...he still turdy separatist...your words not mine...
first u cursed...knot often for future?  8)
but:}

"that thing about being separatist:  you may not be able to get property settlement you want."

that thing about being separatist:  you may not be able to get property settlement you want.

ben franklin was a man who loved philly if aye am not mistaken...no?
how do you explain the declaration of independence.


what? you powder puffs can't explain... ;)

come on...give it a go...


Fidelio

Re: KURDS as mediators and US ally...
« Reply #49 on: April 22, 2006, 02:12:52 PM »
no matter how ya slice it...he still turdy separatist...your words not mine...
first u cursed...knot often for future?  8)
but:}

"that thing about being separatist:  you may not be able to get property settlement you want."

that thing about being separatist:  you may not be able to get property settlement you want.

ben franklin was a man who loved philly if aye am not mistaken...no?
how do you explain the declaration of independence.


what? you powder puffs can't explain... ;)

come on...give it a go...



aye don't see how ben franklin and the kurds have anything to do with one another in the discussion, although aye suppose aye may have missed something before.