Quote from: rhombot on March 26, 2006, 11:27:05 PMcan you draw the distinction between "us" and "them" on a non-arbitrary basis?no, citizenships are rather silly. but that's still the way the world is structured.
can you draw the distinction between "us" and "them" on a non-arbitrary basis?
he's got a point in that the way we decide how to demarcate lines are arbitrary.
i think that red's basic point (and rhombot's for that matter) is that having different countries is stupid. i agree to some extent, but i prefer to have the world look more like us before we go ahead with world government. (she's so going to come and kick my ass in a minute.)
Quote from: SC on March 27, 2006, 05:37:58 AMwould that lead to world laws. I don't like it. People are too different to do this. One of the best things about the world is if you don't like the state of affairs in your country, there are several others that you can potentially choose from (something I am considering).well then you may be screwed when red's running the planet. by my calculations, you have 18 good years left.i think that if there's no control over the movement of people, then countries would have about as much relevance as the states do now. which is to say, some. maybe even with a world government there would be room for you to choose.
would that lead to world laws. I don't like it. People are too different to do this. One of the best things about the world is if you don't like the state of affairs in your country, there are several others that you can potentially choose from (something I am considering).
Quote from: SC on March 27, 2006, 05:44:22 AMi think a lot of immigration policies across the board are racist or in some ways prejudice, but I prefer the seperation they provide. Red ruling the world? I think EVERYONE has their limitations.are they racist? we don't still set quotas proportional to the US population now, do we? yeah, if there were no separation the whole concept of the nation-state would fall apart. some people want that though.and you say that but you know she's planning it. i'm going to start playing nice so that she doesn't have me locked up somewhere when it happens.
i think a lot of immigration policies across the board are racist or in some ways prejudice, but I prefer the seperation they provide. Red ruling the world? I think EVERYONE has their limitations.
ah hell.... i'm trying to push more legal immigration, stricter enforcement against illegal immigration as a consensus position though. what do you think?