Quote from: Magnus91 on May 02, 2006, 01:47:50 PMQuote from: Googler on May 02, 2006, 01:26:34 PMQuote from: Magnus91 on May 02, 2006, 01:25:10 PMQuote from: Googler on May 02, 2006, 01:21:52 PMQuote from: Magnus91 on May 02, 2006, 01:19:50 PMQuote from: Googler on May 02, 2006, 01:12:37 PMQuote from: Miss Celies Blues on May 02, 2006, 12:34:33 PMQuote from: Erapitt on May 02, 2006, 10:51:58 AMQuote from: Alamo on May 02, 2006, 10:49:34 AMQuote from: jiggedyjared on May 02, 2006, 10:44:42 AMJust about all undergraduate educations are equal.Although we can all have only 1 undergraduate education, so we can never REALLY know, I'm gonna call shenanigans. Personally, I think I would've gotten a very different education if I'd gone to Swarthmore as opposed to UVA, and those are recognized as somewhat comparable schools. When you compare Yale to Southeast Podunk State, I don't think you get an equal education.I went to a state school for undergrad and got a great job after graduation as well as being admitted to a T20 law school. I have met and spoken to Harvard grads. that are going to 2nd tier law schools. It doesn't matter where you went, just your GPA and LSAT score. One thing I have learned throughout my growth process as a person is I will do whatever it takes to get my children to go to a state school. It simply does not make sense to end up $50-100K in debt for undergrad. Hmm..I agree for the most part about UG not really mattering. However, I don't think I would push my kid to go to state school. It seems unfair to me, because I'm not rich (no where near it) yet my mom paid for me to go to school all my life (parochial school from k-12, and then ivy ug). Thus, I can't see myself telling my future kid, that they should attend a public school. Plus, in my case, my state school gave me a ridiculous amount of loans, and that school system isn't even that good (NY)However, if I lived in a state with a good public university system (CA, MI, VA, etc) then I would tell them to think about those schools. I'm with you on this one. It pisses me off a lot, that instead of creating one flagship university (like UVA, Umich, Berkeley, etc.), New York chooses to have numerous crappy schools. They market Binghamton as being the most selective in the system, but let's be honest, it's really not that good a school. Plus it has by far the ugliest campus that I have ever seen. NY could definetely improve its college system. Absolutely. NY is one of the few states with a very large population that cannot manage to come up with one good state school. If I lived in a state like VA, I would almost definitely go to UVA unless I got into HYP. I think California has the best Public College system.Best system, probably. In terms of individual schools, however, I'd go to UVA or Umich over Berkeley any day. Such a choice depends heavily on your major. Obviously berkeley is best in the sciences.sYeah, but I've also heard that in the sciences, Berkeley has a forced curve where a 92 can result in a C.
Quote from: Googler on May 02, 2006, 01:26:34 PMQuote from: Magnus91 on May 02, 2006, 01:25:10 PMQuote from: Googler on May 02, 2006, 01:21:52 PMQuote from: Magnus91 on May 02, 2006, 01:19:50 PMQuote from: Googler on May 02, 2006, 01:12:37 PMQuote from: Miss Celies Blues on May 02, 2006, 12:34:33 PMQuote from: Erapitt on May 02, 2006, 10:51:58 AMQuote from: Alamo on May 02, 2006, 10:49:34 AMQuote from: jiggedyjared on May 02, 2006, 10:44:42 AMJust about all undergraduate educations are equal.Although we can all have only 1 undergraduate education, so we can never REALLY know, I'm gonna call shenanigans. Personally, I think I would've gotten a very different education if I'd gone to Swarthmore as opposed to UVA, and those are recognized as somewhat comparable schools. When you compare Yale to Southeast Podunk State, I don't think you get an equal education.I went to a state school for undergrad and got a great job after graduation as well as being admitted to a T20 law school. I have met and spoken to Harvard grads. that are going to 2nd tier law schools. It doesn't matter where you went, just your GPA and LSAT score. One thing I have learned throughout my growth process as a person is I will do whatever it takes to get my children to go to a state school. It simply does not make sense to end up $50-100K in debt for undergrad. Hmm..I agree for the most part about UG not really mattering. However, I don't think I would push my kid to go to state school. It seems unfair to me, because I'm not rich (no where near it) yet my mom paid for me to go to school all my life (parochial school from k-12, and then ivy ug). Thus, I can't see myself telling my future kid, that they should attend a public school. Plus, in my case, my state school gave me a ridiculous amount of loans, and that school system isn't even that good (NY)However, if I lived in a state with a good public university system (CA, MI, VA, etc) then I would tell them to think about those schools. I'm with you on this one. It pisses me off a lot, that instead of creating one flagship university (like UVA, Umich, Berkeley, etc.), New York chooses to have numerous crappy schools. They market Binghamton as being the most selective in the system, but let's be honest, it's really not that good a school. Plus it has by far the ugliest campus that I have ever seen. NY could definetely improve its college system. Absolutely. NY is one of the few states with a very large population that cannot manage to come up with one good state school. If I lived in a state like VA, I would almost definitely go to UVA unless I got into HYP. I think California has the best Public College system.Best system, probably. In terms of individual schools, however, I'd go to UVA or Umich over Berkeley any day. Such a choice depends heavily on your major. Obviously berkeley is best in the sciences.s
Quote from: Magnus91 on May 02, 2006, 01:25:10 PMQuote from: Googler on May 02, 2006, 01:21:52 PMQuote from: Magnus91 on May 02, 2006, 01:19:50 PMQuote from: Googler on May 02, 2006, 01:12:37 PMQuote from: Miss Celies Blues on May 02, 2006, 12:34:33 PMQuote from: Erapitt on May 02, 2006, 10:51:58 AMQuote from: Alamo on May 02, 2006, 10:49:34 AMQuote from: jiggedyjared on May 02, 2006, 10:44:42 AMJust about all undergraduate educations are equal.Although we can all have only 1 undergraduate education, so we can never REALLY know, I'm gonna call shenanigans. Personally, I think I would've gotten a very different education if I'd gone to Swarthmore as opposed to UVA, and those are recognized as somewhat comparable schools. When you compare Yale to Southeast Podunk State, I don't think you get an equal education.I went to a state school for undergrad and got a great job after graduation as well as being admitted to a T20 law school. I have met and spoken to Harvard grads. that are going to 2nd tier law schools. It doesn't matter where you went, just your GPA and LSAT score. One thing I have learned throughout my growth process as a person is I will do whatever it takes to get my children to go to a state school. It simply does not make sense to end up $50-100K in debt for undergrad. Hmm..I agree for the most part about UG not really mattering. However, I don't think I would push my kid to go to state school. It seems unfair to me, because I'm not rich (no where near it) yet my mom paid for me to go to school all my life (parochial school from k-12, and then ivy ug). Thus, I can't see myself telling my future kid, that they should attend a public school. Plus, in my case, my state school gave me a ridiculous amount of loans, and that school system isn't even that good (NY)However, if I lived in a state with a good public university system (CA, MI, VA, etc) then I would tell them to think about those schools. I'm with you on this one. It pisses me off a lot, that instead of creating one flagship university (like UVA, Umich, Berkeley, etc.), New York chooses to have numerous crappy schools. They market Binghamton as being the most selective in the system, but let's be honest, it's really not that good a school. Plus it has by far the ugliest campus that I have ever seen. NY could definetely improve its college system. Absolutely. NY is one of the few states with a very large population that cannot manage to come up with one good state school. If I lived in a state like VA, I would almost definitely go to UVA unless I got into HYP. I think California has the best Public College system.Best system, probably. In terms of individual schools, however, I'd go to UVA or Umich over Berkeley any day.
Quote from: Googler on May 02, 2006, 01:21:52 PMQuote from: Magnus91 on May 02, 2006, 01:19:50 PMQuote from: Googler on May 02, 2006, 01:12:37 PMQuote from: Miss Celies Blues on May 02, 2006, 12:34:33 PMQuote from: Erapitt on May 02, 2006, 10:51:58 AMQuote from: Alamo on May 02, 2006, 10:49:34 AMQuote from: jiggedyjared on May 02, 2006, 10:44:42 AMJust about all undergraduate educations are equal.Although we can all have only 1 undergraduate education, so we can never REALLY know, I'm gonna call shenanigans. Personally, I think I would've gotten a very different education if I'd gone to Swarthmore as opposed to UVA, and those are recognized as somewhat comparable schools. When you compare Yale to Southeast Podunk State, I don't think you get an equal education.I went to a state school for undergrad and got a great job after graduation as well as being admitted to a T20 law school. I have met and spoken to Harvard grads. that are going to 2nd tier law schools. It doesn't matter where you went, just your GPA and LSAT score. One thing I have learned throughout my growth process as a person is I will do whatever it takes to get my children to go to a state school. It simply does not make sense to end up $50-100K in debt for undergrad. Hmm..I agree for the most part about UG not really mattering. However, I don't think I would push my kid to go to state school. It seems unfair to me, because I'm not rich (no where near it) yet my mom paid for me to go to school all my life (parochial school from k-12, and then ivy ug). Thus, I can't see myself telling my future kid, that they should attend a public school. Plus, in my case, my state school gave me a ridiculous amount of loans, and that school system isn't even that good (NY)However, if I lived in a state with a good public university system (CA, MI, VA, etc) then I would tell them to think about those schools. I'm with you on this one. It pisses me off a lot, that instead of creating one flagship university (like UVA, Umich, Berkeley, etc.), New York chooses to have numerous crappy schools. They market Binghamton as being the most selective in the system, but let's be honest, it's really not that good a school. Plus it has by far the ugliest campus that I have ever seen. NY could definetely improve its college system. Absolutely. NY is one of the few states with a very large population that cannot manage to come up with one good state school. If I lived in a state like VA, I would almost definitely go to UVA unless I got into HYP. I think California has the best Public College system.
Quote from: Magnus91 on May 02, 2006, 01:19:50 PMQuote from: Googler on May 02, 2006, 01:12:37 PMQuote from: Miss Celies Blues on May 02, 2006, 12:34:33 PMQuote from: Erapitt on May 02, 2006, 10:51:58 AMQuote from: Alamo on May 02, 2006, 10:49:34 AMQuote from: jiggedyjared on May 02, 2006, 10:44:42 AMJust about all undergraduate educations are equal.Although we can all have only 1 undergraduate education, so we can never REALLY know, I'm gonna call shenanigans. Personally, I think I would've gotten a very different education if I'd gone to Swarthmore as opposed to UVA, and those are recognized as somewhat comparable schools. When you compare Yale to Southeast Podunk State, I don't think you get an equal education.I went to a state school for undergrad and got a great job after graduation as well as being admitted to a T20 law school. I have met and spoken to Harvard grads. that are going to 2nd tier law schools. It doesn't matter where you went, just your GPA and LSAT score. One thing I have learned throughout my growth process as a person is I will do whatever it takes to get my children to go to a state school. It simply does not make sense to end up $50-100K in debt for undergrad. Hmm..I agree for the most part about UG not really mattering. However, I don't think I would push my kid to go to state school. It seems unfair to me, because I'm not rich (no where near it) yet my mom paid for me to go to school all my life (parochial school from k-12, and then ivy ug). Thus, I can't see myself telling my future kid, that they should attend a public school. Plus, in my case, my state school gave me a ridiculous amount of loans, and that school system isn't even that good (NY)However, if I lived in a state with a good public university system (CA, MI, VA, etc) then I would tell them to think about those schools. I'm with you on this one. It pisses me off a lot, that instead of creating one flagship university (like UVA, Umich, Berkeley, etc.), New York chooses to have numerous crappy schools. They market Binghamton as being the most selective in the system, but let's be honest, it's really not that good a school. Plus it has by far the ugliest campus that I have ever seen. NY could definetely improve its college system. Absolutely. NY is one of the few states with a very large population that cannot manage to come up with one good state school. If I lived in a state like VA, I would almost definitely go to UVA unless I got into HYP.
Quote from: Googler on May 02, 2006, 01:12:37 PMQuote from: Miss Celies Blues on May 02, 2006, 12:34:33 PMQuote from: Erapitt on May 02, 2006, 10:51:58 AMQuote from: Alamo on May 02, 2006, 10:49:34 AMQuote from: jiggedyjared on May 02, 2006, 10:44:42 AMJust about all undergraduate educations are equal.Although we can all have only 1 undergraduate education, so we can never REALLY know, I'm gonna call shenanigans. Personally, I think I would've gotten a very different education if I'd gone to Swarthmore as opposed to UVA, and those are recognized as somewhat comparable schools. When you compare Yale to Southeast Podunk State, I don't think you get an equal education.I went to a state school for undergrad and got a great job after graduation as well as being admitted to a T20 law school. I have met and spoken to Harvard grads. that are going to 2nd tier law schools. It doesn't matter where you went, just your GPA and LSAT score. One thing I have learned throughout my growth process as a person is I will do whatever it takes to get my children to go to a state school. It simply does not make sense to end up $50-100K in debt for undergrad. Hmm..I agree for the most part about UG not really mattering. However, I don't think I would push my kid to go to state school. It seems unfair to me, because I'm not rich (no where near it) yet my mom paid for me to go to school all my life (parochial school from k-12, and then ivy ug). Thus, I can't see myself telling my future kid, that they should attend a public school. Plus, in my case, my state school gave me a ridiculous amount of loans, and that school system isn't even that good (NY)However, if I lived in a state with a good public university system (CA, MI, VA, etc) then I would tell them to think about those schools. I'm with you on this one. It pisses me off a lot, that instead of creating one flagship university (like UVA, Umich, Berkeley, etc.), New York chooses to have numerous crappy schools. They market Binghamton as being the most selective in the system, but let's be honest, it's really not that good a school. Plus it has by far the ugliest campus that I have ever seen. NY could definetely improve its college system.
Quote from: Miss Celies Blues on May 02, 2006, 12:34:33 PMQuote from: Erapitt on May 02, 2006, 10:51:58 AMQuote from: Alamo on May 02, 2006, 10:49:34 AMQuote from: jiggedyjared on May 02, 2006, 10:44:42 AMJust about all undergraduate educations are equal.Although we can all have only 1 undergraduate education, so we can never REALLY know, I'm gonna call shenanigans. Personally, I think I would've gotten a very different education if I'd gone to Swarthmore as opposed to UVA, and those are recognized as somewhat comparable schools. When you compare Yale to Southeast Podunk State, I don't think you get an equal education.I went to a state school for undergrad and got a great job after graduation as well as being admitted to a T20 law school. I have met and spoken to Harvard grads. that are going to 2nd tier law schools. It doesn't matter where you went, just your GPA and LSAT score. One thing I have learned throughout my growth process as a person is I will do whatever it takes to get my children to go to a state school. It simply does not make sense to end up $50-100K in debt for undergrad. Hmm..I agree for the most part about UG not really mattering. However, I don't think I would push my kid to go to state school. It seems unfair to me, because I'm not rich (no where near it) yet my mom paid for me to go to school all my life (parochial school from k-12, and then ivy ug). Thus, I can't see myself telling my future kid, that they should attend a public school. Plus, in my case, my state school gave me a ridiculous amount of loans, and that school system isn't even that good (NY)However, if I lived in a state with a good public university system (CA, MI, VA, etc) then I would tell them to think about those schools. I'm with you on this one. It pisses me off a lot, that instead of creating one flagship university (like UVA, Umich, Berkeley, etc.), New York chooses to have numerous crappy schools. They market Binghamton as being the most selective in the system, but let's be honest, it's really not that good a school. Plus it has by far the ugliest campus that I have ever seen.
Quote from: Erapitt on May 02, 2006, 10:51:58 AMQuote from: Alamo on May 02, 2006, 10:49:34 AMQuote from: jiggedyjared on May 02, 2006, 10:44:42 AMJust about all undergraduate educations are equal.Although we can all have only 1 undergraduate education, so we can never REALLY know, I'm gonna call shenanigans. Personally, I think I would've gotten a very different education if I'd gone to Swarthmore as opposed to UVA, and those are recognized as somewhat comparable schools. When you compare Yale to Southeast Podunk State, I don't think you get an equal education.I went to a state school for undergrad and got a great job after graduation as well as being admitted to a T20 law school. I have met and spoken to Harvard grads. that are going to 2nd tier law schools. It doesn't matter where you went, just your GPA and LSAT score. One thing I have learned throughout my growth process as a person is I will do whatever it takes to get my children to go to a state school. It simply does not make sense to end up $50-100K in debt for undergrad. Hmm..I agree for the most part about UG not really mattering. However, I don't think I would push my kid to go to state school. It seems unfair to me, because I'm not rich (no where near it) yet my mom paid for me to go to school all my life (parochial school from k-12, and then ivy ug). Thus, I can't see myself telling my future kid, that they should attend a public school. Plus, in my case, my state school gave me a ridiculous amount of loans, and that school system isn't even that good (NY)However, if I lived in a state with a good public university system (CA, MI, VA, etc) then I would tell them to think about those schools.
Quote from: Alamo on May 02, 2006, 10:49:34 AMQuote from: jiggedyjared on May 02, 2006, 10:44:42 AMJust about all undergraduate educations are equal.Although we can all have only 1 undergraduate education, so we can never REALLY know, I'm gonna call shenanigans. Personally, I think I would've gotten a very different education if I'd gone to Swarthmore as opposed to UVA, and those are recognized as somewhat comparable schools. When you compare Yale to Southeast Podunk State, I don't think you get an equal education.I went to a state school for undergrad and got a great job after graduation as well as being admitted to a T20 law school. I have met and spoken to Harvard grads. that are going to 2nd tier law schools. It doesn't matter where you went, just your GPA and LSAT score. One thing I have learned throughout my growth process as a person is I will do whatever it takes to get my children to go to a state school. It simply does not make sense to end up $50-100K in debt for undergrad.
Quote from: jiggedyjared on May 02, 2006, 10:44:42 AMJust about all undergraduate educations are equal.Although we can all have only 1 undergraduate education, so we can never REALLY know, I'm gonna call shenanigans. Personally, I think I would've gotten a very different education if I'd gone to Swarthmore as opposed to UVA, and those are recognized as somewhat comparable schools. When you compare Yale to Southeast Podunk State, I don't think you get an equal education.
Just about all undergraduate educations are equal.
Graduate school is not always much different than undergrad. for one reason: GRADE INFLATION.The strict absolute curve in law school and medical school is what seperates these professional schools from masters programs and UG that simply give away As and Bs.
Quote from: ibroadrunr on May 02, 2006, 02:47:15 PMWaitlist/reapply. Can I ask why you're not taking UVA's 57k offer?
Waitlist/reapply.
Might be crazy
Quote from: Googler on May 02, 2006, 02:49:04 PMQuote from: ibroadrunr on May 02, 2006, 02:47:15 PMWaitlist/reapply. Can I ask why you're not taking UVA's 57k offer?Might be crazy, but...For where I am right now, Yale's it.(If Stanford took me off their waitlist, I'd have trouble saying no. Cross that bridge later if need be.)