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Re: Does it Matter Where you go to Law School?
« Reply #90 on: May 02, 2006, 03:04:16 PM »
Yep, definitely hijacked.   ;)

It's been a strange year, and that's reflected in my cycle.

If Yale's still a no-go next year, I'll probably get an MA in Gender & Sexuality Studies or something similar.  Law school can wait.

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Re: Does it Matter Where you go to Law School?
« Reply #91 on: May 02, 2006, 03:04:47 PM »
Yes is does matter, but you make it matter.
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Re: Does it Matter Where you go to Law School?
« Reply #92 on: May 02, 2006, 03:07:07 PM »
Just about all undergraduate educations are equal.

Although we can all have only 1 undergraduate education, so we can never REALLY know, I'm gonna call shenanigans.  Personally, I think I would've gotten a very different education if I'd gone to Swarthmore as opposed to UVA, and those are recognized as somewhat comparable schools.  When you compare Yale to Southeast Podunk State, I don't think you get an equal education.


I went to a state school for undergrad and got a great job after graduation as well as being admitted to a T20 law school. 

I have met and spoken to Harvard grads. that are going to 2nd tier law schools.  It doesn't matter where you went, just your GPA and LSAT score.

One thing I have learned throughout my growth process as a person is I will do whatever it takes to get my children to go to a state school.  It simply does not make sense to end up $50-100K in debt for undergrad.

Hmm..I agree for the most part about UG not really mattering.  However, I don't think I would push my kid to go to state school.  It seems unfair to me, because I'm not rich (no where near it) yet my mom paid for me to go to school all my life (parochial school from k-12, and then ivy ug). Thus, I can't see myself telling my future kid, that they should attend a public school.  Plus, in my case, my state school gave me a ridiculous amount of loans, and that school system isn't even that good (NY)

However, if I lived in a state with a good public university system (CA, MI, VA, etc) then I would tell them to think about those schools. 

I'm with you on this one.  It pisses me off a lot, that instead of creating one flagship university (like UVA, Umich, Berkeley, etc.), New York chooses to have numerous crappy schools.  They market Binghamton as being the most selective in the system, but let's be honest, it's really not that good a school.  Plus it has by far the ugliest campus that I have ever seen. 

NY could definetely improve its college system.

Absolutely.  NY is one of the few states with a very large population that cannot manage to come up with one good state school.  If I lived in a state like VA, I would almost definitely go to UVA unless I got into HYP. 

I was under the impression that Cornell was New York's first land-grant University.
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Re: Does it Matter Where you go to Law School?
« Reply #93 on: May 02, 2006, 03:08:43 PM »
Yep, definitely hijacked.   ;)

It's been a strange year, and that's reflected in my cycle.

If Yale's still a no-go next year, I'll probably get an MA in Gender & Sexuality Studies or something similar.  Law school can wait.


Not to hijack this yet again.... but why on earth would you even apply to law school if you weren't actually planning on going?  You got into some great schools and yet aren't going because it is yale or bust for you.  Kinda funny actually.  Your parents must be paying for grad. school because coming from the real world, an MA in "Gender & Sexuality Studies" is completely and totally worthless.
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Re: Does it Matter Where you go to Law School?
« Reply #94 on: May 02, 2006, 03:12:34 PM »
Just about all undergraduate educations are equal.

Although we can all have only 1 undergraduate education, so we can never REALLY know, I'm gonna call shenanigans.  Personally, I think I would've gotten a very different education if I'd gone to Swarthmore as opposed to UVA, and those are recognized as somewhat comparable schools.  When you compare Yale to Southeast Podunk State, I don't think you get an equal education.


I went to a state school for undergrad and got a great job after graduation as well as being admitted to a T20 law school. 

I have met and spoken to Harvard grads. that are going to 2nd tier law schools.  It doesn't matter where you went, just your GPA and LSAT score.

One thing I have learned throughout my growth process as a person is I will do whatever it takes to get my children to go to a state school.  It simply does not make sense to end up $50-100K in debt for undergrad.

Hmm..I agree for the most part about UG not really mattering.  However, I don't think I would push my kid to go to state school.  It seems unfair to me, because I'm not rich (no where near it) yet my mom paid for me to go to school all my life (parochial school from k-12, and then ivy ug). Thus, I can't see myself telling my future kid, that they should attend a public school.  Plus, in my case, my state school gave me a ridiculous amount of loans, and that school system isn't even that good (NY)

However, if I lived in a state with a good public university system (CA, MI, VA, etc) then I would tell them to think about those schools. 

I'm with you on this one.  It pisses me off a lot, that instead of creating one flagship university (like UVA, Umich, Berkeley, etc.), New York chooses to have numerous crappy schools.  They market Binghamton as being the most selective in the system, but let's be honest, it's really not that good a school.  Plus it has by far the ugliest campus that I have ever seen. 

NY could definetely improve its college system.

Absolutely.  NY is one of the few states with a very large population that cannot manage to come up with one good state school.  If I lived in a state like VA, I would almost definitely go to UVA unless I got into HYP. 

I was under the impression that Cornell was New York's first land-grant University.

Cornell is...but not everyone wants to go to an agricultural school or hotel management school.  NY needs a great state school that encompasses a great liberal arts and science education for an instate price, a la UVa or UMich, etc...  The SUNY system is so crappy...even Binghamton is crap (like someone else mentioned). 
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Re: Does it Matter Where you go to Law School?
« Reply #95 on: May 02, 2006, 03:13:07 PM »
What a bizarre system.  :-\
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Re: Does it Matter Where you go to Law School?
« Reply #96 on: May 02, 2006, 03:16:06 PM »
Yeah... I used to play the game where I'd talk to others who had graduated from lower ranked schools for their UG and make fun of them.  I honestly thought that I had gotten a great deal better education just because of US News&WR.  I've worked with a T3 who is one of the smartest people I know, and I've worked with 2 T1's who are complete morons. 


Besides that, a lot of people I know think that lower ranked schools like TCU or SMU are better just because they're private.  UG's are UG's.  Ivy gets you a little more clout.  However, law school and graduate schools are horses of a different color as far as education and as far as potential careers.

People say that it won't matter in 20 years, and that it'll all depend on your career history.  The problem with that is your career history (i.e. your first couple of jobs) is determined by the school you went to.  Does this not strike anyone as not making any sense?

Not sure if this was directed at me... however, I don't think anyone is making fun of someone's undergrad.  The rest of this is confusing... can you elaborate?
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Re: Does it Matter Where you go to Law School?
« Reply #97 on: May 02, 2006, 03:16:27 PM »
Just about all undergraduate educations are equal.

Although we can all have only 1 undergraduate education, so we can never REALLY know, I'm gonna call shenanigans.  Personally, I think I would've gotten a very different education if I'd gone to Swarthmore as opposed to UVA, and those are recognized as somewhat comparable schools.  When you compare Yale to Southeast Podunk State, I don't think you get an equal education.


I went to a state school for undergrad and got a great job after graduation as well as being admitted to a T20 law school. 

I have met and spoken to Harvard grads. that are going to 2nd tier law schools.  It doesn't matter where you went, just your GPA and LSAT score.

One thing I have learned throughout my growth process as a person is I will do whatever it takes to get my children to go to a state school.  It simply does not make sense to end up $50-100K in debt for undergrad.

Hmm..I agree for the most part about UG not really mattering.  However, I don't think I would push my kid to go to state school.  It seems unfair to me, because I'm not rich (no where near it) yet my mom paid for me to go to school all my life (parochial school from k-12, and then ivy ug). Thus, I can't see myself telling my future kid, that they should attend a public school.  Plus, in my case, my state school gave me a ridiculous amount of loans, and that school system isn't even that good (NY)

However, if I lived in a state with a good public university system (CA, MI, VA, etc) then I would tell them to think about those schools. 

I'm with you on this one.  It pisses me off a lot, that instead of creating one flagship university (like UVA, Umich, Berkeley, etc.), New York chooses to have numerous crappy schools.  They market Binghamton as being the most selective in the system, but let's be honest, it's really not that good a school.  Plus it has by far the ugliest campus that I have ever seen. 

NY could definetely improve its college system.

Absolutely.  NY is one of the few states with a very large population that cannot manage to come up with one good state school.  If I lived in a state like VA, I would almost definitely go to UVA unless I got into HYP. 

I was under the impression that Cornell was New York's first land-grant University.

Cornell is...but not everyone wants to go to an agricultural school or hotel management school.  NY needs a great state school that encompasses a great liberal arts and science education for an instate price, a la UVa or UMich, etc...  The SUNY system is so crappy...even Binghamton is crap (like someone else mentioned). 

The hotel school is actually private.  The public schools are agricultural and life sciences, human ecology, and industrial and labor relations.  The rest are all private.  Personally, I think the state should buy up some more land around SUNY Purchase, and make that the flagship school.  A school with tough admissions standards, a suburban campus, and proximity to the city could easily become a top school. 

Thanks for the correction.  And I agree that there should be flagship school (dunno if it should be Purchase though...but that's because I don't know much about the system).
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Re: Does it Matter Where you go to Law School?
« Reply #98 on: May 02, 2006, 03:17:20 PM »
Just about all undergraduate educations are equal.

Although we can all have only 1 undergraduate education, so we can never REALLY know, I'm gonna call shenanigans.  Personally, I think I would've gotten a very different education if I'd gone to Swarthmore as opposed to UVA, and those are recognized as somewhat comparable schools.  When you compare Yale to Southeast Podunk State, I don't think you get an equal education.


I went to a state school for undergrad and got a great job after graduation as well as being admitted to a T20 law school. 

I have met and spoken to Harvard grads. that are going to 2nd tier law schools.  It doesn't matter where you went, just your GPA and LSAT score.

One thing I have learned throughout my growth process as a person is I will do whatever it takes to get my children to go to a state school.  It simply does not make sense to end up $50-100K in debt for undergrad.

Hmm..I agree for the most part about UG not really mattering.  However, I don't think I would push my kid to go to state school.  It seems unfair to me, because I'm not rich (no where near it) yet my mom paid for me to go to school all my life (parochial school from k-12, and then ivy ug). Thus, I can't see myself telling my future kid, that they should attend a public school.  Plus, in my case, my state school gave me a ridiculous amount of loans, and that school system isn't even that good (NY)

However, if I lived in a state with a good public university system (CA, MI, VA, etc) then I would tell them to think about those schools. 

I'm with you on this one.  It pisses me off a lot, that instead of creating one flagship university (like UVA, Umich, Berkeley, etc.), New York chooses to have numerous crappy schools.  They market Binghamton as being the most selective in the system, but let's be honest, it's really not that good a school.  Plus it has by far the ugliest campus that I have ever seen. 

NY could definetely improve its college system.

Absolutely.  NY is one of the few states with a very large population that cannot manage to come up with one good state school.  If I lived in a state like VA, I would almost definitely go to UVA unless I got into HYP. 

I was under the impression that Cornell was New York's first land-grant University.

I think your right.  But Cornell is not fully public.
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Re: Does it Matter Where you go to Law School?
« Reply #99 on: May 02, 2006, 03:24:06 PM »
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The rest of this is confusing... can you elaborate?

Sorry.  I'm hypoglycemic, ran 5 miles on my lunch break, and haven't eaten anything all day.  I'm crashing.  Anyhow, what I was getting at is people say that after your first job, your work history decides the rest of your career.  However, person A graduates from Yale Law and gets two great jobs based on his Yale law degree.  Person B graduates from NESL and obviously doesn't get the same first two job offers because it's T3/T4.  Therefore, the fact that someone graduated from a good school gives them a better work history for their first job or two.  They therefore will have a better resume than the T3/T4 grad, and better job potential for the rest of their career