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Susan B. Anthony

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« on: March 18, 2006, 10:41:55 PM »
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Re: Do these anti-war protests actually accomplish anything?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2006, 10:46:14 PM »
I believe Kissinger has said that the Vietnam-era protests kept the gov. from escalating the bombing of Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam, which presumably means that because of the protests fewer people died.  I would say that counts.

You might reply that the Iraq protests are not big enough to do that.  Neither were the Vietnam protests in 1966 and 1967.  Eventually more and more people stopped believing the lies and became more comfortable standing in opposition to pointless violence.  Hopefully the same thing will happen, and soon, before more kids die.

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Re: Do these anti-war protests actually accomplish anything?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2006, 11:11:08 PM »
Do these anti-war protests actually accomplish anything?

I think protests work in the same way as advertising -- seeing something once doesn't make you want to buy it, but seeing it over and over and over and over again makes you kind of wonder what it is. Limited, localized anti-war protests certainly aren't going to force the gov't to change its foreign policy, but eventually, just by brute force, anti-war protesters (both en masse and individually) can force a large number of people to think critically about the specific justification for a war. Sometimes that has the effect of turning people against governmental policy (as was the case with Vietnam); sometimes it doesn't. Where I live, I see just as many people out on the streets marching for war as against, and while I may laugh at them (good god, they can be ridiculous), I can't begrudge either side the effort -- because I think it's an important "dialogue" (I hate that word as much as I hate partisan idiots) to draw attention to.
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Re: Do these anti-war protests actually accomplish anything?
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2006, 12:52:20 AM »
I think the impact is really a factor of the attendance.

The Cindy Shehan's of the world uniting will get attention and make a difference.

A bunch of bleeding heart college kids from the Northeast with free time, parental resources, and a penchant for protesting doesn't really cut it.

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Re: Do these anti-war protests actually accomplish anything?
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2006, 05:58:00 AM »
half battle is to simply begin to cut through phony "consensus" for war that our moronic media promoted.

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Re: Do these anti-war protests actually accomplish anything?
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2006, 06:15:48 AM »
not for lack of trying.  check this out:  
http://mediamatters.org/items/200603180001.

stunning.

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Re: Do these anti-war protests actually accomplish anything?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2006, 06:20:59 AM »
julie put nothing past them.

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Re: Do these anti-war protests actually accomplish anything?
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2006, 06:41:53 AM »
half battle is to simply begin to cut through phony "consensus" for war that our moronic media promoted.

yes

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Re: Do these anti-war protests actually accomplish anything?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2006, 07:48:47 AM »
protests make a difference, but alone they're not enough to stop the war. they'd be more powerful if:

- they raised the stakes - for instance if they started sabotaging military production.
- they involved people putting their bodies on the line.
- they were used as part of a political program, such as building a political party that represents the public interest, or at least a serious lobbying campaign to stop the war.
- they were accompanied by strikes and other disruptions to business as usual.
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Re: Do these anti-war protests actually accomplish anything?
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2006, 07:59:16 AM »
against the individuals protesting. but this kind of boldness might make it harder to wage wars.
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