Worst 3 Things about each T14

[2Lacoste]

I think that I'm so caught up in the awe of getting into these amazing schools that I'm blinded to some aspects of them that don't completely vibe with what I'm looking for in a school.  Can anyone relate?  If so, post here the top three things that you hate about the T14 schools you're considering.  I'll start it off:

Michigan
1.  Out in the boondocks for an East-coaster like me.
2.  Cold as hell, I would presume.
3.  No faculty that catch my eye (as far as star-faculty goes)

Virginia
1.  Entirely too white (I love it, but sometimes I worry...)
2.  Beer-and-softball culture might be distracting.
3.  Lost interesting faculty to CLS recently -- sign of decline?

Chicago
1.  Ugly campus, from what I hear.
2.  Too "intense" perhaps?
3.  Quarter system.

Harvard
1.  Ridiculously large (550 students or so).
2.  Potentially bad-natured classmates (from the rumors/myths I hear -- Harvard students are arrogant, privileged, elitist, bla bla bla lol).
3.  Cambridge/Boston is not where I wanted to spend the next three years of my life (we couldn't relocate HLS to Miami, could we?).

[Slow Blues]

I'll give this a whirl even though I'm locked into CLS.

Penn:
1. Proximity to Jim's/Geno's/Pat's Steaks = dead of a broken heart at age 29
2. But you're in Philadelpia, which is like NYC, but not as good.
3. Bitter rivalry with Penn State.

NYU:
1. That 'other' New York City school
2. No campus, just a park full of weirdos.
3. Good nightlife but you are too poor to afford it.

Yale:
1. You went to the same school as Dubya
2. New Haven
3. Gets less love than Harvard

CLS:
1. The guy to your right got rejected by Yale and Harvard.
2. The girl to your left got rejected by Yale and Harvard and is ugly.
3. Everything costs about a billion dollars.

Eveerything I just said was firmly tongue-in-cheek.

[motheroftaurasi]

lacoste, is UVA definitely out for you?

[2Lacoste]

lacoste, is UVA definitely out for you?

Nowhere is "definitely out" yet; I haven't received finaid packages yet.  But I am leaning HLS.  I'll be at HLS next fall unless:

1.  Yale accepts me (no way in hell).
2.  Another T10 school throws a TON of money my way.
3.  I visit HLS and have a terrible experience.

Chances are I'll be in Cambridge next fall.

[stacy]

Harvard:
1. Huge
2. Competitive
3. Deferred me.

Yale:
1. Tiny
2. Impractical (in the sense that you seem to learn more theory than practice)
3. New Haven, and the fact that an ex lives there.

Georgetown:
1. Competitive
2. No urban planning joint degrees
3. Separation from rest of campus

Penn:
1. LRAP not as good as many T14s
2. Not that excited about Philly
3. Corporate focus (good for some; not necessarily for me)

Berkeley:
1. Red tape
2. Lack of money (to maintain buildings, etc.)
3. Earthquakes...don't laugh, they scare me

Mich:
1. Far away from all my friends/family
2. I've spoken with some people who weren't thrilled with the help they gave on the 1L summer job search
3. Only on-campus housing requires you to have a meal plan and no cooking facilities

NYU:
1. Competitive
2. Cost of living
3. Possibility of running into Olsen twins

[SuicideNixon]

nyu
1. not as prestigious as columbia, though similarly ranked
2. clerkship placement and law review don't compare to columbia
3. impossible to afford living on or near campus

1-OK. 2-what? clerkship placement is pretty comparable. Don't go to either school for clerkships. Both get absolutely destroyed by chicago. I have no idea what you are talking about with law review. Being on law review at either school gets where ever you want to go. 3-yea, pretty much.

[SuicideNixon]

based on impact factor, immediacy, cost effectiveness and journal citations, columbia's law review surpasses nyu's, and since i'm interested in the possibility of doing law review, it would be cooler to be involved in one that had that much more clout.

OMG-ok, HAHAHAHAHAA. wait. let me catch my breath. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahah. ha. ok. I can't believe someone said that. a new low for LSD. you apparently have no conception of what students on law review do or why it isn't interesting to anyone one way or another. I love the fact that you site cost effectiveness as a factor. man, a classic post.

PS--your clerkship numbers are totally wrong. http://www.law.nyu.edu/depts/careerservices/stats/jobtype/
http://www.law.columbia.edu/careers/career_services/employers/About_Columbia_/Students

14% for NYU (so ~60, _not_ 9)
15% for Columbia

maybe if you don't know what you are talking about you shouldn't be so snarky

[pass36]

maybe if you don't know what you are talking about you shouldn't be so snarky

Mr. President, that's exactly when it is imperative to be as snarky as possible.

[chevelle]

Cornell
1. Cold
2. Cold
3. Cold

[SuicideNixon]

based on impact factor, immediacy, cost effectiveness and journal citations, columbia's law review surpasses nyu's, and since i'm interested in the possibility of doing law review, it would be cooler to be involved in one that had that much more clout.

OMG-ok, HAHAHAHAHAA. wait. let me catch my breath. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahah. ha. ok. I can't believe someone said that. a new low for LSD. you apparently have no conception of what students on law review do or why it isn't interesting to anyone one way or another. I love the fact that you site cost effectiveness as a factor. man, a classic post.

PS--your clerkship numbers are totally wrong. http://www.law.nyu.edu/depts/careerservices/stats/jobtype/
http://www.law.columbia.edu/careers/career_services/employers/About_Columbia_/Students

14% for NYU (so ~60, _not_ 9)
15% for Columbia

maybe if you don't know what you are talking about you shouldn't be so snarky

i meant supreme court clerkships with those numbers, my mistake. (not that i expect to clerk at the supreme court, but an impressive statistic nonetheless, and i'm guessing it's indicative of how competitive a columbia education is in the clerkship 'market.')

i think you misunderstood why i mentioned the law review criteria. my take on law review is simply that to be affiliated with a law review of higher overall quality/reputation is, overall, better, because the law review's success is one reflection (of many) of the school's success. i listed the criteria used in law review rankings (might've left out one, forget), and in all of those criteria, one law review was ranked higher. that says nothing about what i think students do when they're on the law review.

you had a problem with why i mentioned clerkships and law reviews, so i explained myself. the snarkyness was because i was annoyed at your unnecessary rudeness. the thread topic didn't seem to warrant you picking a fight or taking what i said so seriously.

dude, your SCOTUS clerkship numbers are also wrong.

the numbers are 25 for Columbia and 16 for NYU since 1991. Not per year. In the last 5 years it's 7 for NYU and 5 for CLS. at either school basically 2 people go in an good year. and my point about law reviews is that it makes no difference at all whether or not you are on CLS law review or NYU law review. for any reason. for firms you are pretty much set for either one, and for clerkships or academia recommendations are far more important. the difference in prestige between CLS LR and NYU LR is like the difference between their cafeteria food, no one cares (if there even is a difference).