a

[sno]

a

[ChlorasepticRelief]

Why not?

Free food?

[Ocean Blue]

Hey Vapid ---

Do you mind sharing some of the 'insults' Penn was slinging at UMich?  Also, did Michigan address those concerns effectively when you spoke with them?

Thanks.

[AH]

snoboard- def. go for all the reasons listed above.  Also, you never know, you could end up liking the school.  Considering that is extremely doubtful, it can ultimately reaffirm your decision not to go and then you can feel confident about wdrawing.

[Hobert]

Hey Vapid ---Do you mind sharing some of the 'insults' Penn was slinging at UMich?  Also, did Michigan address those concerns effectively when you spoke with them?

I'd be interested in hearing this too...

I would like to hear them as well. I think many would be interested.

["Legapp" Stands for "Legal Application"]

Hey Vapid ---Do you mind sharing some of the 'insults' Penn was slinging at UMich?  Also, did Michigan address those concerns effectively when you spoke with them?

I'd be interested in hearing this too...

I would like to hear them as well. I think many would be interested.

I wanna know, too, Vapid, since I was there and didn't get that impression at all! Who was saying this? Students? (Background: Vap likes more rural enviro, I like urban, hence I love Penn while he does not).

I was about 75% sure I didn't want to go to Georgetown, but visiting made that 100%.  So if nothing else, it gives you certainty. And as the other posters said, I did learn some good questions to ask at other schools.  Also there was some good food and met some nice LSDers 

[The Dread Pirate Roberts]

I'm about 95% sure I'm not going to Columbia, but I'm going to the admit days.

I figure if I'm still not sold after the admit days I'll know for certain and can withdraw.  Plus, if I'm bored, I'll just skip stuff and wander around NYC waiting for the NYU admit day.   

[Ocean Blue]

Where are you, Vapid?

Baff.

["Legapp" Stands for "Legal Application"]

alright...looks like i'm going...damn peer pressure 

Just remember, you have to eat/drink enough to make up for that application fee that you threw away!  I think I just made it a Georgetown, thanks in large part to the fabeled foudue fountain  

[Karl Pilkington]

Penn:

"In the fall of 1995, the Law School adopted a grading system of A, A-, B+, B, B-, C, and F, with a rare A+ awarded for distinguished performance. In any given semester, only a handful of students will achieve more than two A’s while, due to the mandatory nature of our 1L grading curve, students will receive B- and C grades.

University of Pennsylvania Law School students are not ranked in class. The University of Pennsylvania Career Planning & Placement Co-Director, Diane Downs, advises that, 'employers should take care in comparing our system with those of other schools – Penn Law students are admitted under very competitive standards, yet the Law School’s mandatory curve requires that some students fall into all grade categories.'"

Looks like Penn has a curve, but maybe it's more generous with "A"s?

Michigan:

"Michigan uses a modified 4-point grading system, with a range of 4.3 to 0.0 and a grade range of A+ to E. Students at Michigan are ranked, but the school does not release students’ rankings. The mean GPA for upperclass students leans toward a B+ at 3.19.228
In determining course grades, members of the faculty refer to the percentage guidelines adopted by the faculty and set forth below. For each grade, there is a target percentage and also a range of recommended minimum and maximum percentages. In addition, there is a target mean for the entire class.

GRADE TARGET   %     MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM %
A+ and A       10%   0 to 3 % for A+, 7 to 11 % for A
A-             15%   13 to 17 %
B+             30%   26 to 34 %
B              25%   21 to 29 %
B-             10%   8 to 12 %
C+             7 %   5 to 9 %
C and below    3 %   0 to 5 % for C 0 to 4 % for C-, D+, D, E

Mean           3.19 3.13 to 3.25"

This is a great resource for comparing grading schemes at different schools:
http://bcgsearch.com/crc/book2005/bcg_guide_2005.pdf