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Notre Dame "provisional list"

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Re: Notre Dame "provisional list"
« Reply #460 on: August 03, 2006, 01:16:08 PM »
I have a strange feeling some acceptance offers are going to be made.

Re: Notre Dame "provisional list"
« Reply #461 on: August 03, 2006, 02:15:44 PM »
Will you use your strange feeling powers to help me pick numbers for the next powerball lotto?   ;)

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Re: Notre Dame "provisional list"
« Reply #462 on: August 03, 2006, 02:36:30 PM »
First, let us remember what scholarly institution we are in limbo about: Notre Dame

A school that prides itself on high ethics and morals... I really do not believe with an overenrollment of nearly 27 at this point, they would be playing games with us.  I think it is quite possible they may decide to go with the 220 and Barney kindly laid out a very rational way in which it is conceivable.


Some baseless rationalization on that:

To decide if they'll "go for broke" and admit 220, you have to decide what it means to go broke in this case.  Happily for you all, there really is no financial disincentive to a bigger class.  The cost of providing the education is generally fixed within a certain range.  It costs just as much to provide classrooms and teachers to 180 students as it does to 220 if they've got the chairs and desk space. The only negative I'd see with those 40 extra bodies is that they might take a slight hit in USNWR for a slightly greater student/teacher ratio, but that's an area where they have ground to lose, and one that really doesn't count for much anyway.

If we assume that they've wisely prepared for that full 220 person class to attend, and that they've worked schedules and ensured appropriate classroom space to accomodate them all (possibly adding sections which would not otherwise exist) they have good reason to maintain the larger class.   

This could really to y'all's advantage.  Keep hoping.
 

With the number now down to approx. 207, if they were going to go for 220, that would leave about 13 seats available... The previous letter we received said they anticipate to pull 5 to 15 off the waitlist, the majority grom Goup A.

The recent letter, which I did not receive yet, which has been sent to Group A and B, because let's face it, there are going to be a number of people from A who are not going to be able to attend at this late date... but then why go to Group B?  Why not just release them, release us all?  Unless, they truly anticipate filling some more seats.

Maybe, I  am just giving too much credit to ND, but, I have a really hard time believing any institution, especially, Notre Dame, would intentionally at this late date, string people along. jsia 


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Re: Notre Dame "provisional list"
« Reply #463 on: August 03, 2006, 02:38:55 PM »
Yeah...... What she said!

Re: Notre Dame "provisional list"
« Reply #464 on: August 03, 2006, 02:50:09 PM »
Hey all,

I hope that all of you are right about the WL. I withdrew from the class a month ago, and I would like nothing better than to see all of you get in. You each obviously have a passion for ND, and that's definitely the most important factor in succeeding there.

That said, I'm not sure that the admissions committee has its act together this year. With their director on maternity leave, the office has seemed a little "off" all summer. I'm sure many of you noticed, but many of their decisions have not been consistent.

In short, please keep your hopes up, but prepare for some idiosyncratic decisionmaking in th ecoming weeks. With the way the admissions office has been working, they could wind up with 20 open spots at orientation without realizing several students had withdrawn. Or, they could be even more overenrolled than they thought.

Just keep trying, and I hope you'll all get in.

Re: Notre Dame "provisional list"
« Reply #465 on: August 03, 2006, 03:04:14 PM »
I surely didn't want to discredit my first choice institution, trust me. I think what I was trying to say was a bit more in line with what Tulip was getting at--they just seem to be so disorganized that it's hard to tell what we should believe. Honestly, if I got that phone call tomorrow I don't know what I would do. i just spent thousands of dollars moving and the last three months getting myself excited about the school that I'm at. I might not be cmopletely happy but I'm settled and adjusting and that's worth a lot. Plus, at this point I won't get a dime in scholarship aid and I think it's safe to say our financial aid will be pretty messed up for a bit if we were to transfer in so late. I don't know...I guess it is possible that some people will be admitted. Almost all schools have active waitlists up until the last moment and people do decide to change their minds for unforseeable reasons.

That being said, it's not natural to give up on a dream. Blah. If only I had sent in my applications earlier!

Re: Notre Dame "provisional list"
« Reply #466 on: August 03, 2006, 03:06:56 PM »
Um... that strange feeling you have--  It's probably all of those hallucinogenic drugs you've been taking b/c I highly doubt that ND is going to bump up the class to 220 -- esp. w/ the Director on maternity leave.  If you think otherwise, good for you, but I'm a realist.

And that 5-15 number isn't going to happen.  I doubt ND over-enrolled -- 207 is it now? --  in previous years when they were able to pull 5-15 people off the wait list.  

Notre Dame, like every other smart law school, is stringing along people because they don't want to be caught with their pants down in case 50 people don't show up at orientation.  

Hope for the class to go down.  That's a more realistic scenario then ND pushing it's class to 220.  Me? I'm hoping that I win the lottery so I don't have to worry about law school anymore.   ;)

Re: Notre Dame "provisional list"
« Reply #467 on: August 03, 2006, 03:09:56 PM »
I surely didn't want to discredit my first choice institution, trust me. I think what I was trying to say was a bit more in line with what Tulip was getting at--they just seem to be so disorganized that it's hard to tell what we should believe. Honestly, if I got that phone call tomorrow I don't know what I would do. i just spent thousands of dollars moving and the last three months getting myself excited about the school that I'm at. I might not be cmopletely happy but I'm settled and adjusting and that's worth a lot. Plus, at this point I won't get a dime in scholarship aid and I think it's safe to say our financial aid will be pretty messed up for a bit if we were to transfer in so late. I don't know...I guess it is possible that some people will be admitted. Almost all schools have active waitlists up until the last moment and people do decide to change their minds for unforseeable reasons.

That being said, it's not natural to give up on a dream. Blah. If only I had sent in my applications earlier!

My feelings exactly... I'm still playing the WL game myself (Penn and Northwestern), and while I'd love to go to those schools, I grow more and more attached to the school I've chosen every day.

The good news is that we're all going to law school... and that's a pretty amazing thing.

I think we lose track of that a lot on LSD. We are all very fortunate to be going anywhere.

Sorry, I'm in a glass-half-full mood.

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Re: Notre Dame "provisional list"
« Reply #468 on: August 03, 2006, 03:25:23 PM »
Um... that strange feeling you have--  It's probably all of those hallucinogenic drugs you've been taking b/c I highly doubt that ND is going to bump up the class to 220 -- esp. w/ the Director on maternity leave.  If you think otherwise, good for you, but I'm a realist.

And that 5-15 number isn't going to happen.  I doubt ND over-enrolled -- 207 is it now? --  in previous years when they were able to pull 5-15 people off the wait list.  

Notre Dame, like every other smart law school, is stringing along people because they don't want to be caught with their pants down in case 50 people don't show up at orientation.  

Hope for the class to go down.  That's a more realistic scenario then ND pushing it's class to 220.  Me? I'm hoping that I win the lottery so I don't have to worry about law school anymore.   ;)

You're right, you do have a better chance at the lottery, so why waste your time waiting on ND, maybe you should just withdraw your app now.  ;) 

Re: Notre Dame "provisional list"
« Reply #469 on: August 03, 2006, 04:19:17 PM »
Ah drama gal, I'm sure ND will take you before they take me, so my withdrawl would be meaningless.  ;)