Quote from: redemption on January 13, 2006, 11:25:46 PMread my long-ass post below. You'll follow me then. This conversation that the 2 of you are having is embarrassingAhh, I see. So now it's embarassing to post data compiled by the FBI. The solution to any problem is not deluding yourself into thinking it doesn't exist.
read my long-ass post below. You'll follow me then. This conversation that the 2 of you are having is embarrassing
Pish, J only wants to waste YOUR time. Get wise.
I hope the invitation for disagreement isn't restricted to MaraudingJ only, but I'd object to Factor 3 being listed as a factor at all (a few dingbats does not a race concensus make: see the Pats, Robertson and Buchanan) Additionally I'd also disagree with you dismissing Factor 4 as the weakest. You mention that it's overemphasized as if that necessarily a bad thing. I know I'm not really giving explanations as to why but an analogy for clarity with regard to Factor 4: it's as if a patient visits a doctor and says, "Doctor, my stomach hurts". The doctor responds, "No, given your symptoms I think your head hurts, I'll give you medication for that." Which matters more, what the patient - who is experiencing the sensation - thinks hurt or what the doctor - with his expertise - thinks hurt?
3. The African-American poor are cut off from the history of their pre-slavery traditions, and therefore without a strong cultural reference point that has the potential to dominate and replace the legacy of slavery and the formal institutionalised racism that came after.African-American civic organizations should address (3). No-one else can. The traditions of the "old-country", even if they could be identified (was it Hausa? Ibo? Bete?), are lost to African-Americans forever. Silliness like Kwanzaa isn't going to bring them back. A specifically African-American cultural tradition needs to be fashioned out of the specifically African-American expeirnce that is one of hope for the future and optimism and of community with the rest of the population, not one that that is backward-looking, pessimistic and isolationist. The culture of bitches and ho's, of gangsta dress and the pimp walk, of "my-baby-daddy", of taking pride in underachievement (what Chris Rock, that great philosopher, would call the "n-word" culture) is here, there and everywhere, filling the gap between the need of youngstrs to affiliate with a culture that they can call their own and the lack of any positive strong tradition to affiliate with.Instead, we have the call for reparations - a ridiculous proposal by an intellectually and morally bankrupt civil rights movement, either blind to the tragedy around them or seeking to profit by it through empty rhetoric.