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« on: December 06, 2005, 03:52:05 AM »
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Julie Fern

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rummie has every right to be misguided, right which he has exercised on many occasions.  note that article show how he lied when denying whether he'd ever said that post-saddam period would be easy.  he do this all time, because he liar.  big, fat, stinking liar.

for long time, news media printed his lies and those of others in administration about war without much actual reporting.  only lately have media started to do job better, and he not like it--because liars rarely like to get exposed for their lies.

julie watched long fox news "documentary" this weekend about what progress supposedly being made in iraq.  incredibly unimpressive!  julie never doubted that sewer being built here and school there, but how this supposedly win war?  idea seem to be that u.s. "good works" will win over population, which will lead to people tattling on insurgents.

if rebuilding iraqi infrastructure key, then u.s. losing certainly losing war because we blowing things up lot faster than rebuilding them.  soldiers handing candy out to kids just not going to cut it.

even if you assume he somehow right about media, what problem?  bush 0 has more than three years left in office, so should be no problem whatsoever mopping up insurgency that, after all, in "last throes."  it not like american reporters shooting at our soldiers, is it?

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Rumsfeld is right that the media is only focusing on the negatives and no positives. The soldiers are writing all their families and friends and telling them of all the great things that we are doing over there and the media only wants to talk about who got killed where and how today. It is sick and disgusting really. There is a lot of progress in Iraq and people need to wake up and recognize what a great leader Pres Bush is.

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"SIGNS OF FREEDOM AND PROGRESS

       Approximately 80,000 Iraqi children are attending better schools in Iraq’s nine southern provinces because of Coalition reconstruction efforts.

       Internet subscribers have risen from 5,000 before the war to 196,000 in September.

       There were no commercial TV stations in Iraq before the war. Today there are 44.

       There were no independent newspapers or magazines in Iraq before the war.  Today there are more than 100.

       There were no commercial radio stations in Iraq before the war. Today there are 72.

       Iraqi judges have conducted 544 trials since October 2003.

       In Ramadi, fliers have appeared that threaten and denounce the tactics of Islamic extremists.  Some threaten to inform police of extremists’ identity and whereabouts.

       More than 20 Operating Bases have been returned to the Iraqi Government.

       Iraqis are expressing their freedom by providing information on terrorists.  The number of tips has risen from 442 in February to 3,341 in August.

       Driven by the purchase of TVs, appliances, fans, and air conditioners, electricity demand has risen as much as 60% since the war.

 

INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS UP TO SEPTEMBER 2005:

       3,404 Public Schools

       304 Water and Sewage Projects

       257 Fire and Police Stations

       149 Health Facilities

       Total of 4,114 reconstruction projects completed with 921 ongoing

 

SECURITY

       27 of 109 Forward Operating Bases (FOB) in Iraq have been turned over to the Iraqi Army or closed.

       FOB Danger, near Tikrit, is scheduled to be turned over soon.

       Iraqi units are being fully integrated into all major Coalition operations.

       210,000 ISF are trained and equipped, 18,000 more than in September.

       As of September, 120 Iraqi Police and Army battalions are in the fight.  In addition to a fully independent battalion:

       80 battalions are able to fight alongside Coalition troops.

       36 battalions generally able to conduct independent operations. 

       SNAPSHOT: Two brigades of the Iraqi 6th Division have their own battle space in Baghdad, including Haifa Street, once a haven for insurgents.

       As of September, one division, 5 brigades, and 36 battalions currently have the lead in their areas in Iraq.  This summer, only one division and 11 battalions had the lead.

 

IRAQI ARMY UNITS IN COMBAT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*includes combat support/ service units

DEMOCRACY

 

       October 15th was a historic day for democracy in Iraq and a bad day for terrorists.

       Millions of Iraqis turned out to vote, embracing the democratic process.  Iraq now has a constitution.

       On the day of the referendum, there were no suicide bombings, and attacks on polling stations were down from 108 in January to 19 in October.

       60% of registered voters took part in the referendum.

       Significantly higher turnout in Sunni areas is a further indication that Sunnis are joining the political process.

 

IRAQIS TAKING ACTION

 



A significant factor enabling progress against the insurgency is the dramatic increase in intelligence tips received from the population in the past several months, indicative of increasing popular rejection of the insurgents.

              - October, 2005 Report to Congress

 

SINCE JULY….

SINCE JULY’S IRAQ METRICS REPORT TO CONGRESS….

       More than 22 additional battalions have been added to the Iraqi Security Forces.

       More than 5,500 Iraq Police Service personnel have been trained and equipped.

       More than 2,000 Special Police Commanders have been trained and equipped, placing the program well ahead of projections.

       The Mechanized Police reached its target force level of 1,200.

       1,200 additional Public Order Police have been trained and equipped.

       The Emergency Response Unit has conducted nightly operations in Mosul and Baghdad.  Its forces have increased by 50%.

       The Ministry of Defense forces have received approximately 10,000 automatic rifles, 1,800 pistols, 2,700 machine guns, and 750 vehicles from the Coalition.

       The Ministry of Interior forces have received approximately 21,000 AK-47s, 15,000 pistols, 1,700 machine guns, and 1,900 vehicles from the Coalition.

 

OPERATION STEEL CURTAIN

       Operation Steel Curtain is a joint Coalition / Iraqi operation to restore Iraqi control of the Iraq-Syria border. 

       To date, the operation has resulted in:

       100 weapons caches being found and cleared.

       1,000 men suspected of insurgent activities have been detained.

       2,500 Coalition Forces and 1,000 Iraqi forces are acting to secure the cities of Husaybah and Karabilah as part of Steel Curtain.

       Since the operation began, 79 mines and IEDs have been discovered.

       33 weapons caches have been found and destroyed in Husaybah and Karbilah.

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I can;t say exactly what the troops are individually writing, but as a group they are sending stories about the things they are actually doing, building schools, stuff like that, especially in emails, they are sending pictures in those emails to their families and friends to show them that there is progress. I knwo the troops are saddened when they watch the news from here only showing negative things and not the progress, which is hwy they are emailing their families the pics of them building schools, buildings, helping children and such.
Our news is hurting their moral because they think that we don't care about them.

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Oh no, I def believe that they are making sure that their families don't think that they are in any immeminet danger, but still, they are taking pictures of their progress, so that means IT is happening.

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Well, from what I gather it seems that the Iraqis were very happy with us helping them get rid of Saddam. They are glad that we are there, but of course there are those that hated America before we even got there. Those are, of course, the only ones we hear about onthe news. The other ones people here could care less about.
The good thing is that they recognize the good being done in their country, even if it may be awhile before they get out of their eceryday patterns of fear and everything.

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head first.  saw immediately that there no democrats in room, so felt secure.

Julie Fern

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Rumsfeld is right that the media is only focusing on the negatives and no positives. The soldiers are writing all their families and friends and telling them of all the great things that we are doing over there and the media only wants to talk about who got killed where and how today. It is sick and disgusting really. There is a lot of progress in Iraq and people need to wake up and recognize what a great leader Pres Bush is.

hey im, what progress we making on american soldiers not getting killed?  hmmmmmmmm?

still, media should focus on soldiers handing out candy.  that going to change everything.