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What to give a recommender (items like resume, PS, ect. Not a gift after)

Mkay

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So what is everyone giving there Recommenders to help them?

I am thinking just my PS, and maybe Top10 recommendation tips, and addressed envelope.

Questions though, is it possible to get an envelope that is either priority mail or certifed?
Should I ask them to make a photocopy in case it gets lost?

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Re: What to give a recommender (items like resume, PS, ect. Not a gift after)
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2005, 06:41:53 PM »
I gave my recommenders:

- A letter telling them that I was applying to law school, what schools I was applying to, my LSAT score and GPA, what lead me to the decision, some of the skills I wanted them to highlight about me, etc.;
- A copy of my resume and transcript;
- Copies of work I had done for them in the past;
- A copy of some guidelines on how to write an effective LOR;
- Stamped & addressed envelopes

They didn't bother to read any of it. They just laughed at me and wrote the letters. At any rate, I think they appreciated the fact that I was prepared.

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Re: What to give a recommender (items like resume, PS, ect. Not a gift after)
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2005, 07:32:51 PM »
Some people on this board had theirs faxed?  How did that go about?

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Re: What to give a recommender (items like resume, PS, ect. Not a gift after)
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2005, 07:40:45 PM »
I put together a packet for each with cover letter, personal statement, and CV. The cover letter mentioned the specific schools/regions I was applying to and summarized the personal statement in a sentence (Why law?). The most important thing is to give them a deadline with some cushion of time (i.e. - 11/1 for an app that had to go complete by 11/15).

To track progress, I mailed a certified, postage-paid, LSAC-addressed envelope inside of a priority mail package/pouch to their home address.

After I received confirmation that they had received the package, I would follow up periodically. If things get drastic with time, you may have to offer to give them bullet points, outline, or even rough draft of the LOR that they can tweak to their liking. Whatever it takes, so long as you get them to send it in on time.

Re: What to give a recommender (items like resume, PS, ect. Not a gift after)
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2005, 10:36:02 PM »
Speaking from some really good and some really ineffective experiences with recommenders during this cycle and the last one, I would suggest that you meet with your recommender face to face. 

Unless that person's a pompous jack a s s that you really don't know that well (why would you ask them to write your rec. anyway?), they'll want to hear your thoughts on strategy and what to feature.

Think of a coherent, complementary message that dovetails w/ the rest of your app.

Give them an example of a good rec. and an example of a bad rec. You can find these in Ivey's book or elsewhere online.  In addition, provide
 1. Transcripts
 2. Personal Statement
 3. Resume
 4. The best piece of work you've done with them
 5. PREPAID, PRE-ADDRESSED ExpressMail or FEDEX envelopes w/ pre-addressed #10 envelopes addressed to appropriate school/LSAC Target.  This way, they can sign and seal, but won't really have to do any legwork to get stuff there quickly.

The most infuriating thing about applying for a lot of people is waiting for LSAC to forward their recs. to schools.  If a school doesn't explicitly state that they prefer recs. through LSAC, have the recommender FedEx directly to the school's admissions office with something on the package clearly indicating whose application this is going to (don't use your ss#, though).


After the recommender has sent everything, buy them something to show your appreciation.  Also, make sure to send them a copy of your acceptances when you get them with a personalized thank you card.


NOTE, all of the above has basically been stolen from Anna Ivey's Guide to Admissions, which, along with Estrich's How to Get Into Law School, is the single most helpful source for realistic answers to all of these application questions.

You're about to spend hundreds of dollars on apps and tens of thousands on tuition. Spend $30 on these two books to figure out how to do it right.

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Re: What to give a recommender (items like resume, PS, ect. Not a gift after)
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2005, 06:53:42 PM »
I gave them an expanded resume (much longer than what I sent to the schools), one of the initial drafts of my personal statement, print-outs of the directions from specific schools for my targeted letters, a pre-addressed/pre-stamped envelope, and talked with them about what the main theme of my application was shaping out to be. 

Interestingly enough, one of my recommenders let me read my LOR before they sent it and it actually helped me finish my PS.

Re: What to give a recommender (items like resume, PS, ect. Not a gift after)
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2005, 10:05:19 PM »
This might seem like a stupid question, but
Why do profs want to look at your resume?

SCgrad

Re: What to give a recommender (items like resume, PS, ect. Not a gift after)
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2005, 11:23:01 PM »
This might seem like a stupid question, but
Why do profs want to look at your resume?

It gives them a better idea of who you are.  more info = more relevant lor

Re: What to give a recommender (items like resume, PS, ect. Not a gift after)
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2005, 12:25:10 AM »
I don't have anything to add, just wanted to say what a great, descriptive thread title.  If everyone else did this, LSD would be a lot easier to navigate!  ;D

SCgrad

Re: What to give a recommender (items like resume, PS, ect. Not a gift after)
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2005, 12:43:51 AM »
I don't have anything to add, just wanted to say what a great, descriptive thread title.  If everyone else did this, LSD would be a lot easier to navigate!  ;D

Your a mod, can't you change the thread titles? (Yes, I expect too much.)