Well, last I checked, Vietnam is not communist and communism only scarcely exists in the entire world. If we were fighting communism in a de facto war with Russia, I guess history would call us the winner. That is my argument.
Quote from: SCgrad on November 14, 2005, 12:56:33 AMWell, last I checked, Vietnam is not communist and communism only scarcely exists in the entire world. If we were fighting communism in a de facto war with Russia, I guess history would call us the winner. That is my argument.Where did you check? The CIA factbook lists them as a communist state. The government also self-identifies as communist. No changes in that. They are opening to economic reforms, but the state still owns and controls most industry. Although the US considered Vietnam only a part of its larger policy of promoting world wide capitalism, the aim with the troops at that time was specifically to preserve a non-communist government in S. Vietnam. The Vietnamese were not fighting US troops to achieve the world wide supremacy of communism. They were fighting for unification under the north Vietnamese government. They achieved this, which is why they (and most of the international community) feels that they "won". But if it makes you feel better to focus on the fact that the US was successful in our larger economic strategy of worldwide capitalism rather than on the fact that we were not sucessful in preventing communism in S. Vietnam, that's OK with me. You can focus on whatever facts you want, as long as you acknowledge the facts you don't like.
so now you also agree that u.s. lost war?
oh, you mean book entitled never admit you wrong, even when it obvious. julie will do that one when it on oprah'slist.