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Gay Affirmative Action?

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Re: Gay Affirmative Action?
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2005, 08:50:07 AM »
I've give my opinion on this about thirty times in various threads.  Sorry about going off topic, I was just going with the flow of the conversation.

Sorry about making you repeat yourself... and I wasn't trying to reprimand you, just steer the conversation.   ;)

Re: Gay Affirmative Action?
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2005, 09:01:35 AM »
Sugersh,  did you see that article in the NY Times a while about research studying pheromones and bisexuals.  Found that for bisexual men, they were only "turned on" (I forget how that was measured--but would like to know!) by either men or women, not both.  Bisexual women, however, did respond to both.  It was really interesting, and of course there are problems with the methodology--but it supports the idea (for men at least) that you are either gay, straight or lying.

I did see that, and it was certainly interesting, but I tend to think that it is a bit oversimplified.  For one thing, I think I recall that it was all done in a short time period, so changes in orientation over time couldn't be captured if they exist.  For another, reactions porn and to actual sex can be different in a lot of ways.  And I also tend to think that "lying" is a strong word; if someone is very romantically or aesthetically attracted to a particular gender expression, but is only physically attracted to another gender expression, I don't think it would be right to say they were "lying" in saying they're bisexual.

Okay I did I little research into it and I was wrong about the pheromones--confusing two different studies.  The bisexuality study has quite a few flaws (nature of attraction et al.)  The researchers measured attraction by showing porn and using "penile attachments"  --shudder--

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I think... it depends (my stock answer)

I doubt that it comes down to a point system.  Instead, it has helped me to tell a story about my life.  I'm non-trad and in explaining why I am doing this, I have referenced coming out as a turning point.  Only in very few cases, though, would I think it might hurt you.

One of those cases though, Baylor, keeps sending me stuff even though I've checked gay on LSAC.  That I just don't understand.

Re: Gay Affirmative Action?
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2005, 09:37:31 AM »
About Baylor:

I have a 3.8 and a 180 LSAT and I'm gay.  I got the Baylor DVD/Preferred Applicant/Dean's Fellowship app thingy.  I am thinking about sending in a free app along with a personal statement that goes something like "I am gay."  and that only and seeing what happens.  What do you guys think?

John Galt

Re: Gay Affirmative Action?
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2005, 09:51:59 AM »
About Baylor:

I have a 3.8 and a 180 LSAT and I'm gay.  I got the Baylor DVD/Preferred Applicant/Dean's Fellowship app thingy.  I am thinking about sending in a free app along with a personal statement that goes something like "I am gay."  and that only and seeing what happens.  What do you guys think?

I think its stupid. Not only will baylor reject you, they will call every other school you apply to up and then they'll reject you.


If this is a joke, disregard the above.

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Re: Gay Affirmative Action?
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2005, 09:55:38 AM »
About Baylor:

I have a 3.8 and a 180 LSAT and I'm gay.  I got the Baylor DVD/Preferred Applicant/Dean's Fellowship app thingy.  I am thinking about sending in a free app along with a personal statement that goes something like "I am gay."  and that only and seeing what happens.  What do you guys think?

I think its stupid. Not only will baylor reject you, they will call every other school you apply to up and then they'll reject you.


If this is a joke, disregard the above.

If the personal statement just says "I am gay.", then I'd agree with JG (well, I don't think Baylor would necessarily care enough to take the time to call every other school, and I'm not sure they other schools would care, but Baylor'd certainly reject you).  But if it's a personal statement about being gay, I can't imagine any other school would care, even if Baylor does reject you for it.

thescreed

Re: Gay Affirmative Action?
« Reply #35 on: October 31, 2005, 11:06:23 AM »
About Baylor:

I have a 3.8 and a 180 LSAT and I'm gay.  I got the Baylor DVD/Preferred Applicant/Dean's Fellowship app thingy.  I am thinking about sending in a free app along with a personal statement that goes something like "I am gay."  and that only and seeing what happens.  What do you guys think?

I think they'd probably waitlist you pending your response to the query, "How gay are you?" Then you'd have to write a second PS that starts, "Well, I'm SO gay that . . ."

SkullTatt

Re: Gay Affirmative Action?
« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2005, 11:09:02 AM »
I heard of one Baylor interview where a student claimed he was gay and they called him in and asked him to recite every line he could from a John Waters movie. I sh*t you not.

He got in, but it was very close. If he had not memorized three of Queen Carlotta's speeches from Desperate Living, he would have been so dinged...

Re: Gay Affirmative Action?
« Reply #37 on: October 31, 2005, 11:10:36 AM »
About Baylor:

I have a 3.8 and a 180 LSAT and I'm gay.  I got the Baylor DVD/Preferred Applicant/Dean's Fellowship app thingy.  I am thinking about sending in a free app along with a personal statement that goes something like "I am gay."  and that only and seeing what happens.  What do you guys think?

I think its stupid. Not only will baylor reject you, they will call every other school you apply to up and then they'll reject you.


If this is a joke, disregard the above.

The PS was a joke, but the sentiment and the stats weren't.  I don't think that Baylor could foul up everything else for me, though.  What is Harvard going to say:  "well, if he offended you, Baylor, we'll be sure to reject him." My PS is not about being gay, although the statement and my resume both make it clear that I am.  If it didn't cost $12 to apply, I would try it, and see how it turns out.  I know someone, by the way, who had his scholarship to Baylor yanked when they found out he was gay, so this isn't just farfetched speculation.