Well, you're taking out 40% of the ranking, so quite a bit. Here's a close guess at what it might look like:1 Yale Law School 2 Harvard Law School 3 Stanford University Law School 4 Boston University School of Law 5 New York University School of Law 6 Washington and Lee University School of Law 7 University of Minnesota Law School 8 University of Chicago Law School 9 Columbia University School of Law 10 Northwestern University School of Law 11 University of Washington School of Law 12 University of Pennsylvania Law School 13 University of Virginia School of Law 14 Vanderbilt University Law School 15 William & Mary Law School 16 University of California, Berkeley School of Law (Boalt Hall) 17 Cornell Law School 18 University of Iowa College of Law 19 Duke University School of Law 20 Washington University School of Law 21 Baylor University School of Law 22 University of Kentucky College of Law 23 Notre Dame Law School 24 Brigham Young University—J. Reuben Clark Law School 25 Georgetown University Law Center 26 Boston College Law School 27 University of Cincinnati College of Law 28 University of Southern California Law School 29 University of Tennessee College of Law 30 University of Michigan Law School 31 The University of Texas School of Law 32 The University of Alabama School of Law 33 The University of Toledo College of Law 34 University of Wisconsin Law School 35 University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA) School of Law 36 Fordham University School of Law 37 Saint Louis University School of Law 38 George Washington University Law School 39 University of Arizona James E. Rogers College of Law 40 Emory University School of Law 41 University of Georgia School of Law 42 SMU Dedman School of Law 43 University of Hawai'i at Manoa—William S. Richardson School of Law 44 University of Nebraska College of Law 45 Wake Forest University School of Law 46 University of North Carolina School of Law 47 Temple University—James E. Beasley School of Law 48 University of Florida, Fredric G. Levin College of Law 49 The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law 50 St. John's University School of Law 51 University of San Diego School of Law 52 University of Utah S.J. Quinney College of Law 53 Tulane University Law School 54 The University of Memphis—Cecil C. Humphreys School of Law 55 University of Maryland School of Law 56 University of Illinois College of Law 57 Louis D. Brandeis School of Law at the University of Louisville 58 George Mason University School of Law 59 University of Colorado School of Law 60 University of Pittsburgh School of Law 61 The University of Mississippi School of Law 62 Case Western Reserve University School of Law 63 Chicago-Kent College of Law, Illinois Institute of Technology 64 Indiana University School of Law—Bloomington 65 Arizona State University College of Law 66 Loyola Law School, Loyola Marymount University 67 University of Arkansas School of Law—Fayetteville 68 University of Connecticut School of Law 69 University of New Mexico School of Law 70 Mercer University—Walter F. George School of Law 71 University of Missouri—Columbia School of Law 72 Pepperdine University School of Law 73 University at Buffalo Law School, The State University of New York 74 Creighton University School of Law 75 Chapman University School of Law 76 The Florida State University College of Law 77 University of California, Hastings College of the Law 78 Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law, Yeshiva University 79 Brooklyn Law School 80 American University, Washington College of Law 81 Texas Tech University School of Law 82 University of South Carolina School of Law 83 Loyola University Chicago School of Law 84 University of Akron School of Law 85 University of Oklahoma College of Law 86 Ohio Northern University—Claude W. Pettit College of Law 87 University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law 88 University of Nevada Las Vegas, William S. Boyd School of Law 89 Northern Kentucky University—Salmon P. Chase College of Law 90 Duquesne University School of Law 91 Lewis & Clark Law School 92 University of San Francisco School of Law 93 Villanova University School of Law 94 University of California, Davis School of Law (King Hall) 95 Seattle University School of Law 96 University of Arkansas Little Rock, William H. Bowen School of Law 97 Penn State University, The Dickinson School of Law 98 University of Idaho College of Law 99 University of Richmond School of Law 100 University of Missouri—Kansas City School of Law 101 Loyola University New Orleans School of Law 102 Texas Southern University—Thurgood Marshall School of Law 103 Howard University School of Law 104 University of Houston Law Center 105 University of North Dakota School of Law 106 University of Denver Sturm College of Law 107 Willamette University College of Law 108 Northeastern University School of Law 109 Hamline University School of Law 110 Albany Law School of Union University 111 Northern Illinois University College of Law 112 Michigan State University College of Law 113 Washburn University School of Law 114 Stetson University College of Law 115 Hofstra University School of Law 116 University of Miami School of Law 117 Seton Hall University School of Law 118 Rutgers—The State University, School of Law—Camden 119 Cleveland State University—Cleveland-Marshall College of Law 120 Gonzaga University School of Law 121 Southern Illinois University School of Law 122 Louisiana State University, Paul M. Hebert Law Center 123 West Virginia University College of Law 124 University of Kansas School of Law 125 Indiana University School of Law—Indianapolis 126 University of Oregon School of Law 127 Georgia State University College of Law 128 Samford University, Cumberland School of Law 129 Drake University Law School 130 Rutgers University School of Law—Newark 131 University of Wyoming College of Law 132 Marquette University Law School 133 Mississippi College School of Law 134 Campbell University, Norman Adrian Wiggins School of Law 135 Pace University School of Law 136 Vermont Law School 137 Capital University Law School 138 Wayne State University Law School 139 Syracuse University College of Law 140 The Catholic University of America, Columbus School of Law 141 University of Maine School of Law 142 University of Montana School of Law 143 Southwestern University School of Law 144 Valparaiso University School of Law 145 Ave Maria School of Law 146 DePaul University College of Law 147 Quinnipiac University School of Law 148 Suffolk University Law School 149 Franklin Pierce Law Center 150 University of South Dakota School of Law 151 California Western School of Law 152 Santa Clara University School of Law 153 Southern University Law Center 154 North Carolina Central University School of Law 155 New York Law School 156 Regent University School of Law 157 Whittier Law School 158 Western New England College School of Law 159 University of Dayton School of Law 160 The John Marshall Law School 161 Florida Coastal School of Law 162 William Mitchell College of Law 163 University of Tulsa College of Law 164 South Texas College of Law 165 Widener University School of Law 1166 University of Detroit Mercy School of Law 167 New England School of Law 168 Texas Wesleyan University School of Law 169 University of St. Thomas School of Law — Minneapolis 170 University of Baltimore School of Law 171 Oklahoma City University School of Law 172 City University of New York School of Law at Queens College 173 Thomas Jefferson School of Law 174 University of The District of Columbia—The David A. Clarke School of Law 175 Roger Williams University, Ralph R. Papitto School of Law 176 St. Thomas University School of Law 177 Nova Southeastern University—Shepard Broad Law Center 178 St. Mary's University School of Law 179 Touro College—Jacob D. Fuchsberg Law Center 180 Thomas M. Cooley Law School 181 University of Puerto Rico School of Law 182 Inter American University School of Law 183 Florida International University, College of Law 184 Widener University School of Law 2185 Barry University Dwayne O. Andreas School of Law 186 Golden Gate University School of Law 187 Appalachian School of Law 188 Pontifical Catholic University of Puerto Rico, School of Law 189 Florida A&M University, College of Law
Unfortunately it's pretty tough to rank the schools minus the rep (as opposed to the relative ease that with which you can rank them by rep). The 'Faculty Resource' aren't easily accessible and so it's hard to create a new ranking.Though if someone wants to hand enter each school's library volume total and estimate expenditures per student, it could be done.
Based on rep-T14 *****1) Harvard Law School 2) Stanford University Law School 3) University of Chicago Law School 4) Yale Law School 5) Columbia University School of Law 6) University of Michigan Law School 7) University of Virginia School of Law Duke University School of Law 9) New York University School of Law 10) University of California, Berkeley School of Law (Boalt Hall) 11) University of Pennsylvania Law School 12) Cornell Law School 13) Georgetown University Law Center 14) Northwestern University School of Law Tier 1 ****
What would happen is that the rankings would mean even less then they do now, as reputation is the most important factor in placement, and most of the other categories (placement percentage, etc.) are heavily gamed by the schools themselves. It would ultimtely inflate the importance of LSAT/GPA even further, which would presumably bother many on this board. For what it's worth, though, Stanford would probably drop below NYU. Quote from: stateofbeasley on October 08, 2005, 03:16:21 PMI was wondering if anyone had ever taken the USNWR data, removed the reputation scores, and then recalculated the rankings. What schools would rise? What schools coast on their reputations and would plummet like a rock without them?
I was wondering if anyone had ever taken the USNWR data, removed the reputation scores, and then recalculated the rankings. What schools would rise? What schools coast on their reputations and would plummet like a rock without them?