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Why are the Newbies scared to speak up?

They prefer to Lurk.
20 (37%)
They're not, they're just on another website.
4 (7.4%)
The Board is too cliquish.
10 (18.5%)
There's nothing interesting to talk about.
3 (5.6%)
There's nobody interesting to talk to.
2 (3.7%)
Not enough Board moderation.
4 (7.4%)
Newbies?  What Newbies?
11 (20.4%)

Total Members Voted: 54

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« Reply #2100 on: October 06, 2004, 10:07:15 PM »
was that okay that i added my two cents?

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« Reply #2101 on: October 06, 2004, 10:08:26 PM »
or..........wl m pst b gnred?

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« Reply #2102 on: October 06, 2004, 10:09:32 PM »
Everything should be fair and balanced good treatment should be recipricated.

True nuff, but I still don't understand what that has to do with women's rights and women's empowerment. What do you mean by reciprication? (Btw: if my ?'s are annoying to you, you're gonna luv the Socratic method)

Actually, it sounds like your mind is made up so it's not that important. I respect your opinion, I just don't understand it.

Basically I think Black women should abandon both feminism and gender roles and they can't both coexist. When I say reciprication I was just referring to the male/female relations I would like to see in our community where its strong and supportive it had nothing to do with my opinion on womens rights I just spoke on it. And your questions aren't annoying I much rather this sort of conversation then one of those insignificant debates/discussion that so often occurs.

See I see it as the opposite, let's forget about the whole feminism thing. An "empowered" woman has the 2 dualities, and if she were to deny one side of it, then she can never be whole.
Everything should be fair and balanced good treatment should be recipricated.

True nuff, but I still don't understand what that has to do with women's rights and women's empowerment. What do you mean by reciprication? (Btw: if my ?'s are annoying to you, you're gonna luv the Socratic method)

Actually, it sounds like your mind is made up so it's not that important. I respect your opinion, I just don't understand it.

I believe what he's saying is that it's contradictory to call yourself an "empowered woman," in the sense that you don't need to, nor want to, depend on a man for anything, while simultaneously looking at him to pay for dinner whenever ya'll go out to eat.

In that case, I agree.  It isn't contradictory, however, to expect to be treated like royalty, insofar as you are readily willing to return the favor (e.g. pay for dinner, open doors for him, etc.).

I see your point, but this is also where we have a difference in the definition of empowerment. If anything, a truly empowered woman IMHO, would be able to recognize the fact that to say you don't need a man for "anything" is to lie to herself. She just knows how to balance her desire for male companionship and not "need" and "crave" a man. And I wouldn'y think that going "dutch" and all those other things to me have nothing to do with empowerment, they have to do with sharing of financial burdens/responsibilities.

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« Reply #2103 on: October 06, 2004, 10:09:50 PM »
Wanna hear some irony?  ;)

Most people are full of *&^%.  :o

Don't act surprised.

Everyone preaches about how great they are and how much they deserve a good man/woman.

The reality of the situation is you are what you attract.

There are some black men who talk the talk and don't walk the walk. There would be some dogs right under our noses and we wouldn't even know it.

There are some black women with skeletons in their closet (reformed hoes is what I like to call them). Some of them do not deserve a good man and should never reproduce.

Think back in your dating history. Are you thinking? Excellent. Men,  how many women have you screwed over or used solely for your own sexual gratification? How many hearts have you broken b/c your male private part got the best of you?  How can you say you are a good man who respects women, when you've used them as @#!* tools?

Women, how many good guys have you used knowing that he had feelings for you? You never had any intentions of dating him, but keep the naive idiot around for your own personal entertainment? How many good guys have you passed up for that trifflin n-word down the street with a body like a God, but treats you like dog *&^%? Why is it that you complain about not having a good man, when you mess with nothing but hot garbage?

The point is that we are all hypocrites and will never be satisfied. Even with my "list" there will always been something about my mate that I will want to change. Human beings are always striving for perfection; which is an impossible task
Preach on, sister.  You are SO right. 

Been there done that.  Had the body of a god guy -- dude turned out to be a drug dealer.  Took him over the opportunity to be with a wonderful, sensitive and respectful man.

Women need to rethink what they are subjecting themselves to before they start to question everybody else.  You make your own dating choices, so be ready to take responsibility for them.


this is the old: "men are dogs and women don't know what they want."

generally speaking it's truth but not fact.

there are always exceptions to the "pseudo-rule"

not at all.  only some men are dogs and some mislead women choose to date them.  i think the point regal is trying to make is that we have choices and that we don't have to date dogs.  and if we choose to anyways, it says something about us as women.  (read: insecurity, immaturity, materialism, etc.)

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« Reply #2104 on: October 06, 2004, 10:15:23 PM »
Wanna hear some irony?  ;)

Most people are full of *&^%.  :o

Don't act surprised.

Everyone preaches about how great they are and how much they deserve a good man/woman.

The reality of the situation is you are what you attract.

There are some black men who talk the talk and don't walk the walk. There would be some dogs right under our noses and we wouldn't even know it.

There are some black women with skeletons in their closet (reformed hoes is what I like to call them). Some of them do not deserve a good man and should never reproduce.

Think back in your dating history. Are you thinking? Excellent. Men,  how many women have you screwed over or used solely for your own sexual gratification? How many hearts have you broken b/c your male private part got the best of you?  How can you say you are a good man who respects women, when you've used them as @#!* tools?

Women, how many good guys have you used knowing that he had feelings for you? You never had any intentions of dating him, but keep the naive idiot around for your own personal entertainment? How many good guys have you passed up for that trifflin n-word down the street with a body like a God, but treats you like dog *&^%? Why is it that you complain about not having a good man, when you mess with nothing but hot garbage?

The point is that we are all hypocrites and will never be satisfied. Even with my "list" there will always been something about my mate that I will want to change. Human beings are always striving for perfection; which is an impossible task

I hear what your saying and I'd have to agree that the majority of the population is a bunch of hypocrites.  But the thing is, a lot of times being a hypocrite is part of growing up.

What I notice is that although men and women tend to have shady pasts consisting of mistreating the opposite sex, being shallow, etc, that's what causes them to desire a good man or woman later on.  So, they are hypocrites but they learn from their mistakes.  They know how people can be and decide that's not how they want to continue leading their lives and decide to change.

I'm not saying everyone does this, I'm just putting another spin on things.  Personally, I totally believe that most people are hypocrites who don't deserve what they're asking for because they're not all that in the first place.  But, with that in mind, people do change.  Just cuz someone was a playa before doesn't mean that person can't be a good man now and be deserving of someone worth his time (or vice versa).  Therefore, despite past mistakes, everyone deserves a second chance.  

By the time someone is looking for quality, I would hope they had realized their past mistakes and intend on reforming for the better.  I think that those who fall into this category are deserving of desiring a good man or woman due to the fact that they've changed their ways.


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« Reply #2105 on: October 06, 2004, 10:19:46 PM »
All women want to date DOWNY.

So do most men.

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« Reply #2106 on: October 06, 2004, 10:24:44 PM »
Wanna hear some irony?  ;)

Most people are full of *&^%.  :o

Don't act surprised.

Everyone preaches about how great they are and how much they deserve a good man/woman.

The reality of the situation is you are what you attract.

There are some black men who talk the talk and don't walk the walk. There would be some dogs right under our noses and we wouldn't even know it.

There are some black women with skeletons in their closet (reformed hoes is what I like to call them). Some of them do not deserve a good man and should never reproduce.

Think back in your dating history. Are you thinking? Excellent. Men,  how many women have you screwed over or used solely for your own sexual gratification? How many hearts have you broken b/c your male private part got the best of you?  How can you say you are a good man who respects women, when you've used them as @#!* tools?

Women, how many good guys have you used knowing that he had feelings for you? You never had any intentions of dating him, but keep the naive idiot around for your own personal entertainment? How many good guys have you passed up for that trifflin n-word down the street with a body like a God, but treats you like dog *&^%? Why is it that you complain about not having a good man, when you mess with nothing but hot garbage?

The point is that we are all hypocrites and will never be satisfied. Even with my "list" there will always been something about my mate that I will want to change. Human beings are always striving for perfection; which is an impossible task
Preach on, sister.  You are SO right.  

Been there done that.  Had the body of a god guy -- dude turned out to be a drug dealer.  Took him over the opportunity to be with a wonderful, sensitive and respectful man.

Women need to rethink what they are subjecting themselves to before they start to question everybody else.  You make your own dating choices, so be ready to take responsibility for them.


this is the old: "men are dogs and women don't know what they want."

generally speaking it's truth but not fact.

there are always exceptions to the "pseudo-rule"

not at all.  only some men are dogs and some mislead women choose to date them.  i think the point regal is trying to make is that we have choices and that we don't have to date dogs.  and if we choose to anyways, it says something about us as women.  (read: insecurity, immaturity, materialism, etc.)

no, no.  "there are always exceptions to the "pseudo-rule"...only "some" men are dogs and only "some" women choose to string men along...and "some" women are not sure what they want.  

there is truth in that many times we are hypocrites...men are dogs and women don't know what they want.  

but the fact is we are creatures of the human condition...like the lass said striving for unattainable task.

again, though there all always exceptions and choices are in that.  

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« Reply #2107 on: October 06, 2004, 10:32:22 PM »
OK this is really crazy but I HAVE to tell ya this. I live with 3 other women so sometimes when I'm on the phone I'll go outside to have convos. Well I just went out and RIGHT IN FRONT of my building was this SUV. and of course there's hella street lights on my block. Don't u know I just saw this girl giving this guy head. NASTY. Why did it have to be right in front of MY bldg though? And it's not like they were trying to be discreet or anything, there's street lights LINING my block. I mean at first I wasn't exactly sure what was going on. But her head kept bobbin up and down and I was like  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
So dude looks over at me and I figure he'll see me and they'll bounce. Nope. Then he starts pushing her head even harder. I swear that girl looked like she was giving head to save her life. So now I'm back in my room and dude I'm on the phone wit is laughing his ass off. I wish someone else was here to see this *&^%.

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« Reply #2108 on: October 06, 2004, 10:36:01 PM »
was that okay that i added my two cents?

yes

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« Reply #2109 on: October 06, 2004, 10:42:42 PM »
was that okay that i added my two cents?

yes

thankyou...


that sounds like quite something to witness...in nyc i've seen my share of hm, hm, exposed unsolicited body parts...*&^%-nasty-biz.

seriously though,

hopefully the lass was not really being forced into what she was doing...i mean
she wasn't in distress??? could you tell from your vANTAGE POINT...
CALL CAMPUS SECURITY...

otherwise thats some funny *&^%