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Any good ideas for my undergrad?

Any good ideas for my undergrad?
« on: October 30, 2016, 10:26:10 AM »
Hello, I am 29 and I am enrolling into a State college this upcoming January. I want to possibly try for law school. So I am trying to figure out a good undergrad that interests me and could be useful to a law degree. A couple of majors that I am thinking about are Philosophy, journalism, poll sci, or maybe US history.

I want to be an activist. For example, one of my heroes is Robert Kennedy JR. I would love to maybe get involved with helping fight for causes I believe in. Like the environment, civil rights, and politics. Thanks

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Re: Any good ideas for my undergrad?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2016, 09:47:31 AM »
Your undergraduate degree (given these choices, and your stated desires) doesn't matter. Honestly.

Choose the one that you have the most interest in. Do really well (your GPA matters a lot). Then take the LSAT. But law schools don't care, at all, what your major is in undergrad- especially when it's a standard "liberal arts" major. So choose what you like, and do well.

Re: Any good ideas for my undergrad?
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2016, 04:09:50 PM »
Loki is right on point, law schools care about GPA/LSAT major doesn't matter just the number.  In all honesty your better off with a 4.0 in underwater basket weaving than a 3.1 in molecular biology.

For the time being enjoy undergrad and do as well as you can to keep the door open, don't worry about law school for now.  Many people think about going and a good GPA will keep the door open for you, then it will primarily come down to the LSAT.

Best of luck!

Re: Any good ideas for my undergrad?
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2016, 04:36:20 PM »
As for as getting IN to the JD I agree with the last two posters.

BUT

ONCE THEY KICK YOU OUT OF THAT COMFY WOMB AND MAKE YOU GET A DAMN JOB..................

It matters a LOT. Maybe it didn't used to, but it does now days. Employers want those transcripts from undergrad too if you plan to work for someone else. Most specialty types of law "prefers" (requires) specific undergrad too.
Plus of course if you ever want to do anything even remotely patent related its a LEGAL REQUIRMENT
or if you want to do tax you can just forget it if you aren't also a CPA or have an LLM in tax law

Stupid? Sure. True? Yeah.

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Re: Any good ideas for my undergrad?
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2016, 12:16:56 PM »
As for as getting IN to the JD I agree with the last two posters.

BUT

ONCE THEY KICK YOU OUT OF THAT COMFY WOMB AND MAKE YOU GET A DAMN JOB..................

It matters a LOT. Maybe it didn't used to, but it does now days. Employers want those transcripts from undergrad too if you plan to work for someone else. Most specialty types of law "prefers" (requires) specific undergrad too.
Plus of course if you ever want to do anything even remotely patent related its a LEGAL REQUIRMENT
or if you want to do tax you can just forget it if you aren't also a CPA or have an LLM in tax law

Stupid? Sure. True? Yeah.

This is not accurate, in my opinion and from my observations. If you do have an interest in patent law (which you did not indicate ... patent law is pretty much the polar opposite of environmental and civil right law), then I would recommend a B.S. But that's not at issue.

My first job was in BigLaw- they never inquired about my uGPA (undergrad GPA). Since then, I have never been asked for my uGPA at any position, and as someone who has hired other attorneys (including those fresh out of law school), I have never asked about the uGPA. Because I don't care. No one I know cares.

Maybe there's someone, somewhere, who cares. But I have yet to meet them.

They don't care about your major, either, unless it's for conversation (some interesting major you can talk about). No one cares. Not a little, not a lot, about what you did in undergrad, or in high school, or in grade school. C'est la vie.

Re: Any good ideas for my undergrad?
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2016, 12:34:31 PM »
I agree with Loki.

For patent law, yes, of course your undergrad major matters. Maybe for tax law, too. But that's about it. The vast majority of practicing lawyers have degrees in English, History, Poly Sci, whatever.

I have never once had an employer ask me ANYTHING about undergrad. Certainly never had to provide transcripts. In fact, four years out of law school I don't get asked about law school grades much either.

Re: Any good ideas for my undergrad?
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 02:23:04 PM »
@#!* it go to cooley, apparently no one cares about anything anymore

Re: Any good ideas for my undergrad?
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2016, 02:24:48 PM »
@#!* it go to cooley, apparently no one cares about anything anymore
I was going to toss in "go to ITT Tech for your undergrad"...........but google tells me that half those shams are shut down now (hint:not the cooley half, but give it a week-who knows)

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Re: Any good ideas for my undergrad?
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2016, 10:30:59 AM »
@#!* it go to cooley, apparently no one cares about anything anymore

Not the point at all. Your law school matters greatly, as does your relative rank within the law school and what you did at the law school (law review/journals, moot court, trial team, research assistant, book awards, summer gigs etc.). This will help you get your first job and will follow you for a period of time (until you have some real experience, a book of business, etc.).

That's the thing- for law jobs, it's the law school (and performance therein) that matters. Not the undergraduate performance or degree. The undergrad performance only matters to get into the good law school. In a certain way, that performance is "baked in" to the law school.

Re: Any good ideas for my undergrad?
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2016, 04:07:45 PM »
yeah, you read only about half of what I wrote since you already knew what you wanted to post before you began..........


Lets use YOUR logic. If you think the JD matters but not the undergrad, then the undergrad matters.
Since it WILL effect what odds you have as to what JD you get into.

See how that works?