Law School Discussion

Anybody thinking about Taft?

Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2016, 12:22:38 PM »
Respectfully I have to disagree.  If the OP does not want to be an attorney but be learned in the law, a regionally accredited Masters in Legal Studies is the ticket. The material taught is different from law school in some respects. A fully accredited Masters degree will be useful either in further academic studies or jobwise whereas an unaccredited online law degree is pretty much useless except as a bar ticket. 

Secondly and perhaps more importantly, we have forgotten that a California online program requires the student to pass the First Year Bar Exam and travel to California before they can continue their studies.  That is one nasty exam and has about a 20% pass rate, so why subject yourself to that?

Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2016, 12:24:21 PM »
Respectfully I have to disagree.  If the OP does not want to be an attorney but be learned in the law, a regionally accredited Masters in Legal Studies is the ticket. The material taught is different from law school in some respects. A fully accredited Masters degree will be useful either in further academic studies or jobwise whereas an unaccredited online law degree is pretty much useless except as a bar ticket. 

Secondly and perhaps more importantly, we have forgotten that a California online program requires the student to pass the First Year Bar Exam and travel to California before they can continue their studies.  That is one nasty exam and has about a 20% pass rate, so why subject yourself to that?
I had mentioned a few things, so I assume you are disagreeing with the EJD part (not the other law doctorates -which are MORE respected than the Masters, since......its the same thing........but higher up.....)

As to the bar requirements, those do not exist for EJD

Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2016, 12:25:19 PM »
I'd choose the MLS over the Executive JD.  Non bar JDs have a long history of being dodgy even though the Concord one is not.  Nothing gets a lawyer more riled up then some non lawyer holding himself out as John Smith JD.  Don't know why that it is but John Smith LLM or John Smith LLB do not have the same negative effect.
Depends on if you want to work for a lawyer or not, if not, screw what they feel.think
I know a CPA with an EJD, he would just laugh at a redfaced lawyer

There is actually a reason - there are instances where holders of dubious JDs from diploma mills like Novus and the old LaSalle (not California registered distance learning law schools), disbarred attorneys, and bar exam failures have tried to dupe the public by calling themselves JDs which while technically correct does not entitle them to practice law.
Different Schools, thus anyone that stupid has no opinion of any value to care about to begin with.

Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2016, 01:45:37 PM »
Respectfully I have to disagree.  If the OP does not want to be an attorney but be learned in the law, a regionally accredited Masters in Legal Studies is the ticket. The material taught is different from law school in some respects. A fully accredited Masters degree will be useful either in further academic studies or jobwise whereas an unaccredited online law degree is pretty much useless except as a bar ticket. 

Secondly and perhaps more importantly, we have forgotten that a California online program requires the student to pass the First Year Bar Exam and travel to California before they can continue their studies.  That is one nasty exam and has about a 20% pass rate, so why subject yourself to that?
I had mentioned a few things, so I assume you are disagreeing with the EJD part (not the other law doctorates -which are MORE respected than the Masters, since......its the same thing........but higher up.....)

As to the bar requirements, those do not exist for EJD

I am just saying that someone interested in law who does not want to be lawyer should consider a Masters In Legal Studies.

Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2016, 04:33:21 PM »
Respectfully I have to disagree.  If the OP does not want to be an attorney but be learned in the law, a regionally accredited Masters in Legal Studies is the ticket. The material taught is different from law school in some respects. A fully accredited Masters degree will be useful either in further academic studies or jobwise whereas an unaccredited online law degree is pretty much useless except as a bar ticket. 

Secondly and perhaps more importantly, we have forgotten that a California online program requires the student to pass the First Year Bar Exam and travel to California before they can continue their studies.  That is one nasty exam and has about a 20% pass rate, so why subject yourself to that?
I had mentioned a few things, so I assume you are disagreeing with the EJD part (not the other law doctorates -which are MORE respected than the Masters, since......its the same thing........but higher up.....)

As to the bar requirements, those do not exist for EJD

I am just saying that someone interested in law who does not want to be lawyer should consider a Masters In Legal Studies.
No one wants to brings a Masters Degree to a Doctorate fight

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Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2016, 10:26:16 PM »
Anyone considering Taft? ... I am not interested in being a lawyer but I have always wanted to study law. I

Over 20 years plus Taft has a good track record of graduates actually passing the state bar.  However since you say you do not want to be an attorney, might I suggest an accredited Masters in Legal Studies from Kaplan or other regionally accredited online provider.  It will be quicker and cheaper. If you still want a JD, then Concord is a good one because it is the only one regionally accredited and has more bells and whistles for its students.  Regionally accredited means that degree is accepted as a real graduate degree by other universities while the other law school's programs may or may not be.

I have a Masters in Law & Public Policy.  I was searching for a ph.d. In some law discipline but was unsuccessful. 

Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2016, 08:08:43 PM »
Anyone considering Taft? ... I am not interested in being a lawyer but I have always wanted to study law. I

Over 20 years plus Taft has a good track record of graduates actually passing the state bar.  However since you say you do not want to be an attorney, might I suggest an accredited Masters in Legal Studies from Kaplan or other regionally accredited online provider.  It will be quicker and cheaper. If you still want a JD, then Concord is a good one because it is the only one regionally accredited and has more bells and whistles for its students.  Regionally accredited means that degree is accepted as a real graduate degree by other universities while the other law school's programs may or may not be.

I have a Masters in Law & Public Policy.  I was searching for a ph.d. In some law discipline but was unsuccessful.
google "online phd" there are several regionally accredited ones. Then go to "major" and pick a law subject

Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2016, 08:16:46 AM »

I have a Masters in Law & Public Policy.  I was searching for a ph.d. In some law discipline but was unsuccessful.

I'd advise against a PhD in Law, it is not a very popular degree and won't qualify you to teach at a law school since you do not have a JD and are not a lawyer.  Academic jobs are tight, you'd be better off going for a PhD in Political Science with an emphasis in Public Policy which would have much more utility.  Additionally online and foreign PhDs are a tough sell these days for job seekers.  Good luck.

Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2016, 12:58:36 PM »

I have a Masters in Law & Public Policy.  I was searching for a ph.d. In some law discipline but was unsuccessful.

I'd advise against a PhD in Law, it is not a very popular degree and won't qualify you to teach at a law school since you do not have a JD and are not a lawyer.  Academic jobs are tight, you'd be better off going for a PhD in Political Science with an emphasis in Public Policy which would have much more utility.  Additionally online and foreign PhDs are a tough sell these days for job seekers.  Good luck.
The Masters was in Law&Public Policy. An identical PhD would not require a JD nor a law license to teach in it.
Same with Criminal Justice, or MOST legal subjects OTHER than law school.

Might end up teaching at State........but I don't think teaching is even the goal here.

Re: Anybody thinking about Taft?
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2016, 11:00:43 AM »
Unless that PhD is from a well respected school, and you have an impressive publishing record plus experience plus connections, you won't end up teaching at State. Maybe as an adjunct for one or two classes, but that's about it.

Academic jobs, even at no name State U's, are insanely competitive right now. The majority of PhDs will not get an academic job.