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Re: POTUS
« Reply #80 on: August 09, 2015, 08:59:30 AM »
The investigation into Hillary means jack. Almost all politicians have that stuff happen to them on some level (most often RAPE, full on RAPE) but they do just fine if they have the momentum behind them anyways (the rapists like it from behind I guess) She'll be fine. 100% chance of that.

Even the ones who are "punished" are a joke. Look at her husband, or Olly North. All joke punishments. All still had careers after that too.

Lmao.  It is a joke. That's the point. Even today hillarys right hand man huma abedin is in trouble.  Hillary, huma and her lawyer are all going to be under oath that they turned over all classified documents as ordered by a federal judge.  It is amazing how deep it gets as the summer wears on.

I guess you guys aren't following or don't follow news from legal,  business, political periodicals.  That's ok. You'll catch on soon enough.

"Hillary Clinton's  exempting herself from the practices imposed on the 24,000 Foreign Service officers and Civil Service workers she oversaw has led to resentment from some former subordinates. And by holding onto the official emails until the State Department was prompted by Congress to ask for them, and then deciding for herself which to preserve, Mrs. Clinton may have provoked mistrust even as she asks American voters to send her to the Oval Office."

These emails contain mucho highly classified info that hillaryo  didnto think she'd get caught holding...but she did. 

Small time mishandling of classified info is a criminal punishable offense.

Nixon thought he could get away with his private communications set up and it BURNED him---he was inevitably going to retain the presidency.  He did not.

Hillary is in that same drip drip boat---and she can't use "national security" reasons to hide behind.

Don't believe me.  That too makes this funny that you guys don't care to see it. It's okay.

This is not Whitewater rafting or lying about a cigar job. Lol

Watching hillarys downfall is sad but inevitable.  It makes for great political theatre

Just like tricky male private part nixon

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« Reply #81 on: August 17, 2015, 01:31:30 PM »
....i hear crickets and tumbkeweeds now--- lmao.

So, what was that about the FBI investigating Nixon, ER I mean Clinton?

Just heard Woodward say the sane thing I was writing three weeks ago...

Drip drip drip mrs Clinton.  This slow implosion is fun to watch. 

One thing is for sure. Barring a Republican part that shoots itself in the foot. We are not getting a Democrat in the Whitehouse.
Clinton is legal toast. 

Where is the home brew server now?

This is awesome and hilarious.

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Re: POTUS
« Reply #82 on: August 17, 2015, 02:52:28 PM »
 "Barring a Republican part[y] that shoots itself in the foot."

The three leaders for the GOP nomination, currently, and the only ones polling in double digits:
Trump, Carson, Cruz.

In order to shoot itself in the foot, the GOP would have to take said foot out of its mouth. Wouldn't want a headshot, after all.

"Clinton is legal toast."

Nope. Now, if you wanted to make a case that a drawn-out accumulation of innuendo might draw a serious challenger into the race, that would be interesting (no, Sanders and O'Malley are not serious). There's certainly time for that, and, inter alia, Biden's camp has floated the rumor. But unless and until that happens, I'd bet on the status quo. You rarely lose money with that.



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« Reply #83 on: August 17, 2015, 08:17:10 PM »
Nope. Now, if you wanted to make a case that a drawn-out accumulation of innuendo

Now, like Clinton you are changing your story.  First Clinton was a sure thing--even gambling odds ---)she IS going to be the one nominated.  Now you introduce the caveat of "innuendo". 

Well innuendo or no innuendo it is very enjoyable watching Clinton go down. The thing about status quo is that every so often the koolaid wears off and like the FBI confiscating nixons private correspondence followed by his subsequent resignation change follows  happenstance.

Nixon didnt need a legal team either he was bread right up until he was toast. Lol

Loki? Dont you know that when the FBI investigates a politician it doesn't end well for the politician? You seem cerebral enough to get this.
Dont believe me?  See what bob Woodward said about Clinton's chances of success.

It is fun to watch because the vise tightens every day.  Republicans with trump is nowhere near as interesting---) they have a long way to go and unfortunately for establishment democrats the  writing is on Hillary Clinton's firewall.

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« Reply #84 on: August 17, 2015, 09:29:37 PM »
"Barring a Republican part[y] that shoots itself in the foot."

The three leaders for the GOP nomination, currently, and the only ones polling in double digits:
Trump, Carson, Cruz.

In order to shoot itself in the foot, the GOP would have to take said foot out of its mouth. Wouldn't want a headshot, after all.

"Clinton is legal toast."

Nope. Now, if you wanted to make a case that a drawn-out accumulation of innuendo might draw a serious challenger into the race, that would be interesting (no, Sanders and O'Malley are not serious). There's certainly time for that, and, inter alia, Biden's camp has floated the rumor. But unless and until that happens, I'd bet on the status quo. You rarely lose money with that.
Don't waste energy arguing with partisans. They are like theists. They start with a conclusion and then work backwards from there.

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Re: POTUS
« Reply #85 on: August 18, 2015, 06:03:00 AM »
"Now, like Clinton you are changing your story.  First Clinton was a sure thing--even gambling odds"

I haven't changed my story. You seem incapable of reading. And her odds (either 1-5, or 1-6 for the Demcoratic nomination, even odds for Presidency) are the same. Status quo, remember.

The only way that will change is that if enough eventually comes out that a real player in Democratic politics comes out to challenge her (because that means that she has lot support where it matters, and the powers that be know it). That's when you will know that any of this stuff actually matters outside of your own echo chamber.

That's also why I'm not overly concerned that the GOP field has Trump, Carson, and Cruz as the frontrunners right now. We can check in again later.


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« Reply #86 on: August 18, 2015, 09:26:35 AM »
8? Bernie dancers is a Democrat.  Unless you truly think he's a socialist in which case you'd be slightly mistaken and he's going to win new Hampshire. Maybe Iowa.  Hardly partisan.

And loki, you have given the impression that you think Clinton is a sure thing.  You introduced your
"big player" maybe coming out to hedge your bet, no?

And the very funny part is that presently not in an echo chamber, whatever that means, but in reality the FBI is conducting a criminal investigation regarding compromised classified and top secret info Clinton knowingly mishandled.

Loki, you are aware that the FBI dont investigate civil matters right?

Unless, you think there I no FBI investigation going on?

You are aware of the FBI investigation right?


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Re: POTUS
« Reply #87 on: August 18, 2015, 11:28:53 AM »
*sigh*

The FBI is not investigating Clinton. You understand that report was corrected, right?

The FBI is looking into the path of certain documents, that were not classified correctly, at the State Dep't.

Shorter version- the issue would not be whether or not Clinton herself did it incorrectly, it would be whether or not the documents should have been classified to begin with.

Now, I understand you enjoy your breathless "But she's Nixon," reporting. I don't really care for her myself. But given your postings, you will have to excuse me if I find you, well, not credible.

You'll have to be even more understanding when I say that you seem to have acquired POO (politically-obtained obtuseness) when it comes to reading. There is a difference between saying that my opinions have not changed, but they might change *if* a major Democratic player enters the field (because that would mean that there is actual currency to the issue beside your fevered imagination), as opposed to "hedging my bets." This is no different that if I were to say, "My opinion has not changed, but if Clinton was to die, I doubt she will be President."

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« Reply #88 on: August 18, 2015, 03:24:00 PM »
I'll follow up later.  Not sure why you dont find me credible? Or incredible for that matter.  This isn't spin or partisanship playing because we are talking an actual federal criminal investigation not bridgegate...lol
 
Yes, i think Bernie will win nh and Iowa---is that partisanship? Seriously? Is it?

I'll follow up later on but here is something factual and tangible-- not spin.   
 
Check this out future lawyers --   
FBI IS investigating Hillary Clinton and this is part of what she faces.
18 USC 798 and 18 USC 1924
Nixon shooting himself  in the foot was political theatre and today, perhaps by the end of the month we will have witnessed some awesome political theatre as Clinton goes down.
 

Come on guys perhaps I'm cynical but just dont want to admit that Clinton downfall is more engaging than trumps clownshow?

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« Reply #89 on: August 18, 2015, 05:08:05 PM »
I don't think the FBI is actually investigating her, per se. They're looking in to the security of the State Depts overall systems.

Nonetheless, it contributes to a general feeling of discontent and mistrust among many Democrats which could eventually hurt her. It depends on many variables.

At this point, there is no reason to believe Sanders will win Iowa. New Hampshire yes, but not Iowa. Long term, I don't think Sanders is a serious threat to Clinton's ability to obtain the nomination. The excitement over Sanders does, however, indicate that many Democrats are happy that there's an alternative to Clinton. Maybe that means lower voter turnout next November, maybe not.

The only serious threat she might face is if Biden jumps in. Chaffee and O'Malley no threat at all, but Biden has a good rep among most Democrats. He's far more likeable.