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California Bar official position on NOVUS

California Bar official position on NOVUS
« on: September 24, 2014, 11:43:43 AM »
Dear     :

We regret to inform you that Novus Law School does not have degree-granting authority from any recognized U.S. educational entity, nor does attending Novus allow anyone to sit for any bar exam in the United States. 

A listing of schools, including online law schools, that are recognized by the State Bar of California may be found on our website at http://admissions.calbar.ca.gov/Education/LegalEducation/LawSchools.aspx.  Requirements to sit for the bar exam in California may be found at http://admissions.calbar.ca.gov/Requirements.aspx

Best Regards,


Office of Admissions

The State Bar of California | 180 Howard Street | San Francisco, CA  94105

(415) 538-2300 | http://admsf.calbar.ca.gov

 

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Re: California Bar official position on NOVUS
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2014, 11:45:23 AM »
Why ask California? Because NOVUS uses a California phone number and does business in that state, so California has jurisdiction over them.


barprephero

Re: California Bar official position on NOVUS
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2014, 12:54:50 PM »
Dear     :

We regret to inform you that Novus Law School does not have degree-granting authority from any recognized U.S. educational entity, nor does attending Novus allow anyone to sit for any bar exam in the United States. 

A listing of schools, including online law schools, that are recognized by the State Bar of California may be found on our website at http://admissions.calbar.ca.gov/Education/LegalEducation/LawSchools.aspx.  Requirements to sit for the bar exam in California may be found at http://admissions.calbar.ca.gov/Requirements.aspx

Best Regards,


Office of Admissions

The State Bar of California | 180 Howard Street | San Francisco, CA  94105

(415) 538-2300 | http://admsf.calbar.ca.gov

 

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE : ***This e-mail message may contain confidential and/or privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient.  Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited.  If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message.***
John, Are you sure you can copy that when it includes that Confidentiality Notice the way it is worded on it? "Disclosure to others is strictly prohibited"

Re: California Bar official position on NOVUS
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2014, 08:09:11 PM »
LOL!  That is boilerplate.  I made a request for public information under The California Public Records Act.

Re: California Bar official position on NOVUS
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2014, 08:29:37 PM »
The letter doesn't contain any confidential or privileged information.

Is Novus one these places that sets you up with a CA lawyer, then provides some study materials so that you can attempt the "study with a lawyer" route? I wouldn't pay five cents for that nonsense.

Since the degree itself is apparently insufficient to sit for the bar, the prospective attorney will have to fulfill the legal education requirement some other way. Sounds like a waste of time and money with little chance of success. Caveat emptor!

barprephero

Re: California Bar official position on NOVUS
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2014, 09:21:38 PM »
LOL!  That is boilerplate.  I made a request for public information under The California Public Records Act.
I know its boilerplate, doesn't change what I wrote.

barprephero

Re: California Bar official position on NOVUS
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2014, 09:24:38 PM »
The letter doesn't contain any confidential or privileged information.

Is Novus one these places that sets you up with a CA lawyer, then provides some study materials so that you can attempt the "study with a lawyer" route? I wouldn't pay five cents for that nonsense.

Since the degree itself is apparently insufficient to sit for the bar, the prospective attorney will have to fulfill the legal education requirement some other way. Sounds like a waste of time and money with little chance of success. Caveat emptor!
Something being non confidential and saying not to share is still doing the opposite of what the law bar just told you to do. It bugs me how simple this is and yet how complicated it is to digest.

Novus is a scam, but I feel bad saying caveat emptor since although we are smart enough to understand it, it preys on people who are not smart enough to even get into Taft so they likely are someone who have a 2.0 in a DETC AA after getting an Adult alternative education degree. I wouldn't expect them to know how to set a digital watch.

Re: California Bar official position on NOVUS
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2014, 09:40:35 PM »
Fresh - do you know what email legal boilerplate is?  It is unenforceable, no court to my knowledge has ever upheld it yet lawyers and others still use it anyway.  Also, what does it mean in this context?  I asked for information from a public agency.  They answered me.  I am under no obligation to keep the information private since it was addressed to me.  Start thinking like a lawyer and you may get there some day.

http://blogs.findlaw.com/strategist/2012/03/that-disclaimer-at-bottom-of-your-email-is-unenforceable-lawyers-say.html

http://www.economist.com/node/18529895

barprephero

Re: California Bar official position on NOVUS
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2014, 09:47:03 AM »
Fresh - do you know what email legal boilerplate is?  It is unenforceable, no court to my knowledge has ever upheld it yet lawyers and others still use it anyway.  Also, what does it mean in this context?  I asked for information from a public agency.  They answered me.  I am under no obligation to keep the information private since it was addressed to me.  Start thinking like a lawyer and you may get there some day.

http://blogs.findlaw.com/strategist/2012/03/that-disclaimer-at-bottom-of-your-email-is-unenforceable-lawyers-say.html

http://www.economist.com/node/18529895
(sigh) This is blowing my mind a bit here folks
I am not talking about court cases, I am talking about the bar itself (which is an entirely different animal with its own set of rules)
WILL it do that? Not likely, especially seeing how you don't use your real name to post.
COULD it? Yes. Why mess with it.

And I used to work for govt agencies that used that stuff, so yeah I know what it is, but I also know superiors saying "why put your head in the lions mouth if you don't have to"

Re: California Bar official position on NOVUS
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2014, 04:08:59 PM »
Reality check dude - if some boilerplate scares you; how you going to take on the DA's officer or file a civil rights lawsuit for a client?  Get out there and read some Gerry Spence or Tony Serra:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=gerry+spense&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3Agerry+spense

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=tony+serra&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3Atony+serra