Law School Discussion


« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2014, 10:02:53 AM »
So, I took the LSAT on Saturday and I have no plans to cancel my score. LR and RC seemed to be easier than expected but LG killed me. It was exhausting but I did it. I had other reasons for this as well but I was awake for 21 hours straight right before the LSAT, during, and after. I expect my score to be 150-155. As a precursor to today's post, I am very stubborn. I don't see myself as putting off life by planning to start law school in Fall 2016 as opposed to Fall 2015. I see myself as being better prepared and taking the necessary steps to achieve my goal.

Law school has been an option in my head for a long time but I've never put serious thought into it. Earlier this year I had a dream I attended law school and I had some other things telling me law school was the answer. And when I lost my job law school was my option to start over. And you are right there is no guarantee I won't lose my job next June or I won't have some other extenuating circumstance. But I feel if I prepare better on LG alone, I will get a better score the second time I take the LSAT. As you said, my score will allow me to get in and start somewhere but I am not ready. I need to take the steps to get there. 

I visited UNC-School of Law Friday and I mentioned that my LSAT score was going to be bad. The tour guide, who was a 3L, said her score was on the lower end and that she wrote addendums. And I definitely plan on writing one for my GPA. I had a major depression one semester and against the advice I received I did not drop any classes. My aunt taught me to never quit and be strong in hard times. But because I didn't quit, my GPA suffered. I think I had a 1.8 that semester. Anyway, that was a tangent but point being I could write an addendum for a lower LSAT score as well. While on the topic of my visit to Carolina Law, I spoke with a fellow visitor about putting off law school for another year and told him I was trying to get more financially ready. He said "when will that ever happen?" And he's right to an extent. I will never be fully financially ready but I can be more ready than I am now. And the same goes for the LSAT I think I will never be fully ready but I can feel  and be more ready than I felt Saturday. Honestly, if its on the high end of my expected score range of 150-155 I may not retake it. But I will never know if I can't get in a better financial situation. I'm broke right now, I have nothing in savings. I was unexpectedly denied a fee waiver. My account is on hold right now because I registered when I thought the fee waiver would be approved and I will never be able to get my score if I don't get a job and pay the fees. I'm worried about $170 test fee because I have nothing right now.

I went on a few dates with this guy. He talked a lot about making a life plan and sticking to it. And seeing everything as a step to get to an ultimate goal. Even though that's I think part of the reason he's 39 and single, he's got a good point. I need to take the necessary steps to get to my goal of going to law school. And I cannot do them all in less than a year. And taking a year another year is one of those steps in order to complete all the little steps.  I cannot feasibly do everything I need to do to start in 2015. But starting in 2016, I can maybe not complete every little step but I can more realistic do what I need to do.

My point is I took the LSAT and I am proud of myself that I did it. I've had days when I can barely get out of bed. And I took the LSAT. And I'm proud regardless of whether I got a 120 or a 180, both of which are unlikely. I think all I can do now is get a job so I can pay the fees. Get my score and I will make a decision from there on whether to retake it. But I think regardless I am going to have to take a year to save up some money to prepare for law school. I have a lot of cost/fees with preparing for law school (test fees, CAS fee, my computer is on its last days, application fees, etc.) Plus, I got into some trouble and my credit cards are on a debt management program which I will complete in spring 2016 just keeping the payments the same so that will be alleviated by time I start school. Finances are a big concern for me right now. And I need it to be better for entering law school. I am definitely considering the cost of law school. But I know I will qualify for loans and need based grants, etc. I am stubborn, driven, and I do not give up. So, I am going to law school, I just have to be a bit realistic.

« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2014, 01:06:37 PM »
Excellent to hear you took it as Woody Allan said 90% of life is just showing up and whether you get a 120 or 180 you took the LSAT. I cannot tell you how many people put it off, but you can literally start applying to law schools in three weeks, and there is no harm in signign up to take the December LSAT now.

As for the application fees one way to save a lot of money on that is attending an LSAC forum or just registering. Here is a link to the LSAC page for the forums .

I registered and attended one of these and got more fee waiver's than I knew what to do with. Literally go up to every school's booth you even though of applying to write down your LSAC number and most will come back with a fee waiver, and in your application you can say you stopped by the admissions officer's booth. This can give you a slight bump on your application and at the end of the day it is a numbers game, but it never hurts to talk to school's directly and save hundreds if not thousands of dollars on applications.

Again, congrats on taking the LSAT it is a big accomplishment to put yourself out there and even if you did terribly at least you put yourself out there.

When I was going through law school, LSAT, etc this quote got me through all of it.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. "

You put yourself out there and whether you failed or succeed on this small test, you put yourself out there, which is something very few people do, and it is why I love the quote so much.

Good luck in

« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2014, 02:06:09 PM »
Thank you for your kind words. I'm feeling pretty confident just on the fact I took the LSAT. I can't believe its over and I don't have to study right now. I think all I can do now is wait to get the score back and make a decision from there about my next move. Attending a forum may be a good idea, the next one and the closest one to me is in Atlanta in November (I'm outside of Charlotte, NC). The benefit there is I have friends in Atlanta I could stay with so no hotel costs but I know they are busy. Also, they are full of themselves. Yeah, there's the cost of the train ride or a tank of gas but if it saves me a lot of money on applications it could be worth it. It's something to think about. Worst case scenario, I'll wait until next year. Right now though, I need to focus on getting a job so I can get the hold removed from my LSAC account so I can get my score. But once again thank you for your kind words.

« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2014, 02:38:54 PM »
Attending a forum, if you can do so at minimal cost, is an excellent idea even if you ultimately decide to wait until next year. It is almost the only chance you will have as an applicant to meet admissions committee members and school representatives. Make a list of schools at the forum in which you'd be interested, hopefully a mix of reaches, targets, and safetys if you know your LSAT score by then. Approach them and ask thoughtful questions about their school and programs, not general questions about law school or the application process. If there is an opportunity for a chat, you can introduce yourself and tell them a little about yourself. You can also potentially get fee waivers. It may not give you a shot somewhere you weren't being considered, but demonstrated interest in the school and its programs can make a difference on the border/wait list.

It is good that you have taken the LSAT so now you will have the final piece of objective information you need to consider your future for now. But, if you have to wait until next year, it is not the end of the world. Admissions committee members won't hold it against you. Remember, law school will always be there.