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Did you apply to ABA and CBE?
« on: May 28, 2014, 03:28:57 AM »
I am curious if our CBE students applied to ABA as well, or if they knew going into it that they only wanted to apply to CBE schools?
If you did apply to ABA, were you accepted and still chose the CBE option? If so why? If you have been enrolled for awhile now and/or graduated, do you still feel it was the right choice?

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Re: Did you apply to ABA and CBE?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2014, 12:48:02 PM »
I didn't apply to any CBE schools, but I did consider them initially. They were cheaper and offered more flexible part time programs. In the end, I did well enough on the LSAT to get a large scholarship to an ABA school so the decision to go to an ABA was easy.

If I hadn't gotten a scholarship, then a CBE degree for $50k vs. $150k at an ABA might have been much more attractive. Also, I already had numerous contacts within the legal market so finding a job wasn't really going to be a problem. If I had been younger and less experienced, accreditation would have been a much bigger issue.

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Re: Did you apply to ABA and CBE?
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2014, 01:01:44 AM »
That is an interesting question I honestly never considered CBE schools when I was applying, but I was an idiot as a 0L and thought rankings etc mattered.

Knowing what I know now I might have considered a CBE school and gotten out with much less debt to end up in the same spot a licensed lawyer in California.

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Re: Did you apply to ABA and CBE?
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2014, 12:47:20 PM »
At Monterey College of Law (a CBE law school), appx. 50% of our applicants report that they have applied to both CBE and ABA law schools (usually Golden Gate and Santa Clara given the geographic proximity to Santa Cruz and Monterey). We don't know how many get accepted to both, but of those that we accept, usually about 5-10% ultimately choose to attend an ABA school.
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Re: Did you apply to ABA and CBE?
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2014, 07:48:57 PM »
At Monterey College of Law (a CBE law school), appx. 50% of our applicants report that they have applied to both CBE and ABA law schools (usually Golden Gate and Santa Clara given the geographic proximity to Santa Cruz and Monterey). We don't know how many get accepted to both, but of those that we accept, usually about 5-10% ultimately choose to attend an ABA school.
what is your acceptance rate of those who apply? I can't imagine many get told no (or am I wrong?) Isn't the standard just a 2.0 with 60 credits and no lsat score at all?

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Re: Did you apply to ABA and CBE?
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2014, 11:00:55 AM »
MCL does require the LSAT and a much higher UGPA than you might expect. Preliminary 2014 entering class data and previous years below.
                     
MCL Data   LSAT      UGPA
Year:   25th/Med/75th   25th/Med/75th
                       
Fall 2014:141   147   148      2.74   3.28   3.58
Fall 2013:138   144   148      3.00   3.29   3.59
Fall 2012:141   146   148      2.67   3.03   3.60
Fall 2011:140   148   152      2.95   3.21   3.44
Fall 2010:142   146   151      2.96   3.20   3.43
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Re: Did you apply to ABA and CBE?
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2014, 12:52:16 PM »
MCL does require the LSAT and a much higher UGPA than you might expect. Preliminary 2014 entering class data and previous years below.
                     
MCL Data   LSAT      UGPA
Year:   25th/Med/75th   25th/Med/75th
                       
Fall 2014:141   147   148      2.74   3.28   3.58
Fall 2013:138   144   148      3.00   3.29   3.59
Fall 2012:141   146   148      2.67   3.03   3.60
Fall 2011:140   148   152      2.95   3.21   3.44
Fall 2010:142   146   151      2.96   3.20   3.43
What you gave were averages, not minimal requirements. You say it "might be higher than I expect" It might be. What is it?

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Re: Did you apply to ABA and CBE?
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2014, 01:32:30 PM »
I think the averages provided by CA Law Dean are a better indication of MCL's student body than whatever the minimum acceptable standard is.

For example, ABA schools don't necessarily require a bachelor's degree (I think 90 units is minimally acceptable at some ABA schools), and there is no official minimum LSAT score. However, an applicant without a degree and a 140 LSAT is not going to stand  chance at the vast majority of schools. 

I'm sure that MCL has some minimum acceptable standard, but that most admitted students are qualified beyond that standard. I'm also pretty sure that the LSAT is required for CA accredited schools.

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Re: Did you apply to ABA and CBE?
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2014, 08:01:07 PM »
I am pretty sure CA Law Dean gave the averages in his chart it appears the median gpas from 2010 to 2014 were as follows:

2014 3.28
2013 3.29
2012 3.03
2011 3.21
2010 3.2

I do not believe any ABA school or CBA school has a minimum GPA requirement, but CA Law Dean's statement was merely to say the median GPA was a lot higher than expected and those GPA's are actually higher than a number of ABA schools.



GPA for 2014 was 3.28; GPA for 2013 was 3.29;

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Re: Did you apply to ABA and CBE?
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2014, 11:44:18 PM »
Ok, but from what school? Odds are that most online law students went to an online school and have a different grading standard than regular schools.
Having a 3.0 at some online schools would be a 1.0 on campus at some schools.