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How much can one expect to raise from a cold 151?
« on: January 07, 2013, 08:23:25 PM »
So I took the December LSAT, my score turned out to he 151. I had went over some questions to see what types there were, but I didn't really prepare for it. There were a few pages (about 4) that I didn't even get to answer because I was unprepared with the timing aspect. I'm aiming for at least 160, but to get into the school I want I need a score of at least 157.
My question is, is it unrealistic to expect to raise my score that much? Can I get that much better with timing?
Also, I was wanting to take the February LSAT as a re-take which gives me just over a month of preparation time. I can study at both of my jobs so I'll have a lot of time. I can wait and take it in June but that's late for me.

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How much can one expect to raise their score from a cold 151?
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2013, 08:26:15 PM »
So I took the December LSAT, my score turned out to he 151. I had went over some questions to see what types there were, but I didn't really prepare for it. There were a few pages (about 4) that I didn't even get to answer because I was unprepared with the timing aspect. I'm aiming for at least 160, but to get into the school I want I need a score of at least 157.
My question is, is it unrealistic to expect to raise my score that much? Can I get that much better with timing?
Also, I was wanting to take the February LSAT as a re-take which gives me just over a month of preparation time. I can study at both of my jobs so I'll have a lot of time. I can wait and take it in June but that's late for me.

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Re: How much can one expect to raise their score from a cold 151?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2013, 11:57:34 AM »
First off realize not everyone gets a 160 that is the 80th percentile of test takers and 80% of people who are college graduates and motivated enough to actually show up for the LSAT don't score that highly. This will be the same when you go to law school when 100% of people on the first day of class firmly believe they will be in the top 10% just as the LSAT scenario described above displays you don't need to be a math major to see that 90% of people will not meet their expectations.

With that said is it possible to raise your score? Absolutely if you didn't study at all. The LSAT is a test you can raise your score by 10-15 points from your original diagnostic in my opinion. I took a practice LSAT cold came got a 144 not knowing what anything was. I studied for a few months received a 157 went to a law school, graduated, passed the bar, and became a lawyer. I didn't go to Harvard, Yale, or Stanford either and odds are neither will you again only 1% or so of applicants get in there. However, you don't need a 160 to get into law school or go to Harvard to become a lawyer.

As far as what to do in your particular situation the LSAT in it's current state is an everything to gain nothing to lose situation as I understand it. The vast majority of schools have done away with averaging scores and take only your highest. If you receive a 148 next time around it won't really hurt you as 151 will be your score. If you receive a 160 then you got you wanted. However, I would check with any schools you were seriously interested in before taking the LSAT to find out if me the anonymous internet poster who has no repercussion for being 100% wrong is in fact correct the schools will know far better than me.

One other thing I tell anyone considering law school is the longer you wait the less likely it is to happen. If you have a 151 and above a 3.0 you can get into a few schools and if the location, cost, and  your personal feeling about the school feel good go for it. The longer you wait to enroll the more likely life is going to get in the way of you ever going. That may be a good thing if you don't really want to be a lawyer, but a terrible thing if it is something you really want to do.

You could also apply to the schools you are interested in now and if they reject you bummer if you get accepted great. If you get rejected then retake the LSAT get a higher score and re-apply it shows sincere interest and desire to go law school which I imagine admission committees would like. However, I urge to check with the schools to make sure that is the case.

Good luck

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Re: How much can one expect to raise from a cold 151?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2013, 09:36:56 PM »
It isn't unrealistic at all.  I've read plenty of accounts of people improving from 150s to 170s or higher so yes what you are aiming for is certainly possible.  You will have to work at it, of course. 

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Re: How much can one expect to raise from a cold 151?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2013, 12:48:45 AM »
It's very realistic to improve in the 150s with some hard studying!

Timing is definitely something you can work on, too. If you find a particularly difficult problem, it's often in your best interest to skip it and come back. Just make sure you don't mis-bubble!

By the way, I merged your threads so the discussion would be in one place.

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Re: How much can one expect to raise from a cold 151?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2013, 04:14:44 AM »
Dear bbently1,

Not knowing your learning style and strengths and weaknesses, itís hard to say whether itís realistic for you to improve your score from a 151 to a 160 in a month. What I could say is that the best way for anyone to improve their LSAT score is by studying materials and techniques that most improve their biggest weaknesses.

For instance, if time management is your biggest weakness, learn and practice techniques that will most improve your LSAT time management skills. If Logical Reasoning is your biggest weakness, learn and practice techniques that will most help you there. What you donít want to do is reinforce your current weaknesses or frustrate yourself by forcing techniques that donít work for you.

That is basically the gist of this LSAT study plan app and this How Much Can You Improve Your LSAT Score article. But we go into much more detail there.

The point of this very hedged opinion is that it is realistic to improve your LSAT score that much in that amount of time. But you will likely need to learn some new techniques and expend a lot of time and energy practicing. Good luck.

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Re: How much can one expect to raise from a cold 151?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2013, 06:34:04 PM »
I don't if it is very realistic to improve significantly as Niceone suggests it depends on what you do.  If it were easy to get a 170 or into Harvard many more people would do it. The LSAT can be learned and your score can be increased with crazy studying, but we could all have 6 pack Abs if everyone worked out for 2 hours a day and ate right still most people don't do that.

A 160 is pretty hard to get can it be done? Sure, but 80% of people who take the LSAT don't get it and those are usually college graduates motivated enough to take the LSAT it is a difficult test. I cannot tell you how many people say they get 160-170's on practice tests etc, but these people seem to always have an excuse for not taking the real test. It is hard and a lot of pressure it can be done, but if you really want to be a lawyer you can do with a 151 good luck.