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jack24:
Please list any valid reasons for attending an online/distance law school.
Thanks.

Maintain FL 350:

--- Quote from: jack24 on September 06, 2012, 10:48:38 AM ---Please list any valid reasons for attending an online/distance law school.
Thanks.

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I can't speak from experience, but geographic isolation seems like the most valid reason. If there is no way you can physically get to a brick and mortar school,  I guess online is the only option. However, since you'll have to probably move to CA anyway in order to practice, geography will continue to work against you even after law school.

The main problem I see is that many online students have a "lottery mentality" about their chances. Even though they can do the research and see that only a small percentage of students pass the FYLSE, and an even smaller number pass the bar, they're willing to spend tons of time and money on that slight chance. Statistically, the vast majority will have nothing to show for it.

I have no doubt that there are very smart, hardworking, disciplined online students (we have several on this board) who will pass the bar and become lawyers. My criticisms are not directed at them. I actually have more respect for an online student who passes the CA bar than an ABA student who gets admitted to WI without even having to take the bar! For most people, though, online is probably a waste of time and resources.

jonlevy:
I am a Taft grad and have been an attorney for 20 years.  The only reason these days to go with online is geographic or a disability that prevents one from attending classes.  I lived about 5 hours from the nearest law school and had a good job otherwise I would have attended night law school instead in San Francsco.  There is no time savings being online, what you save in commute and classes, you will lose in the extra year and all the additional studying required.

Roald's got it right: Lottery mentality, 5-1 odds against you is a bad bet out of the gate and the real odds are more like 20-1 since I suspect many students drop even before the First year Bar Exam.

Bar Pass rate is everything, if an online school does not have a proven track record of at least getting a few lawyers admitted every year forget them - not all these schools are created equal - Taft, Concord and some others have a half way decent record but the odds are still stacked against you.

Maintain FL 350:

--- Quote from: calgal27 on September 05, 2012, 10:14:16 PM ---As far as a law degree, it really doesn't matter which online school you go to.  In the end, the degree is the same and only allows you to sit for the bar in California.  Regardless of the pass rate for the bar or for the First Year Exam, you make what you want out of it. 

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I'd have to disagree with you on that point. As Jon said, these places are not all created the equally. Taft's first time CA bar pass rate for Feb 2012 was 75% (4/5), and for Feb 2011 was 5/7. Oak Brook is routinely in the 50-60% range, and Concord is usually about 25-35%.

Although the number of exam takers from these schools is relatively small, the results are repetitive. Compare that to other schools that routinely have a 0-5% pass rate, and I think it's clear that some places are offering a much better product than others.

cooley3L:

--- Quote from: Roald on September 06, 2012, 02:02:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: calgal27 on September 05, 2012, 10:14:16 PM ---As far as a law degree, it really doesn't matter which online school you go to.  In the end, the degree is the same and only allows you to sit for the bar in California.  Regardless of the pass rate for the bar or for the First Year Exam, you make what you want out of it. 

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I'd have to disagree with you on that point. As Jon said, these places are not all created the equally. Taft's first time CA bar pass rate for Feb 2012 was 75% (4/5), and for Feb 2011 was 5/7. Oak Brook is routinely in the 50-60% range, and Concord is usually about 25-35%.

Although the number of exam takers from these schools is relatively small, the results are repetitive. Compare that to other schools that routinely have a 0-5% pass rate, and I think it's clear that some places are offering a much better product than others.

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I think her argument was once you pass and get licensed, you are licensed all the same.
True about the odds being not as good, and the license being far more geographically limited though.

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