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Northwestern California University, School of Law.

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Re: Northwestern California University, School of Law.
« Reply #80 on: July 20, 2012, 11:47:40 AM »
@Jack not saying the work ethic is really a factor

The friend was taking another bar while working full-time. I imagine at Cornell many of the grads took NY bar the first time and it is a possibility that the individuals who failed were taking a 2nd/3rd bar while trying to make 1800 billable hours or something like that.

That is what happened to my friend I'm certain she could pass if she took the full-time to do it.

If the statistic indicated first-time takers of a bar period opposed to already licensed attorneys I would be curious to know if there is a discrepancy. There may not be, but this is only a theory.

California is an EXTREMELY difficult bar as well I am in no way negating that, but just trying to show there is often much more than goes into passing or failing a bar than the school someone attends.


Re: Northwestern California University, School of Law.
« Reply #81 on: July 20, 2012, 03:59:43 PM »
Licensed attorneys take an abbreviated version of the Cal bar and routinely do worse than first time takers. My theory is that increased alcohol and drug consumption is a factor in the lower than expected pass rate:

The pass rate for the 396 lawyers who took the attorneys’ exam was 34.6 percent, a decline from last year’s 41.6 percent pass rate. Of those who took the attorneys’ exam, 26 were disciplined lawyers who took the test as a condition of reinstatement. Four passed. The attorneys’ examination is open to lawyers who have been admitted to the active practice of law in good standing for at least four years in another United States jurisdiction.

http://www.calbarjournal.com/December2011/TopHeadlines/TH6.aspx

Re: Northwestern California University, School of Law.
« Reply #82 on: July 22, 2012, 09:34:32 AM »
The non ABA grads are in an inferior position per se because they cannot forum shop for an easier bar to take.

What state has the easiest bar?

Re: Northwestern California University, School of Law.
« Reply #83 on: July 22, 2012, 11:58:36 AM »
If you do a Google search, you can know too.

Re: Northwestern California University, School of Law.
« Reply #84 on: January 12, 2013, 07:56:33 PM »

In your experience, do most of the students at Concord plan on becoming solo practitioners? If not, does Concord help its students out with placement, or help you get in touch with alumni? Just curious. My own school had a pretty abyssmal career services office, we were pretty much left on our own.

I doubt any online school could do much in the way of job placement since its graduates are usually going to be disqualified from most public employment with non ABA degrees.  Online students are going to be solo or two person firm practitioners by default.

Just want to refresh this post reminding readers to look up the post I made several months ago where I gave an example of a friend of mine who went to distance law school Oakbrook College of Law, passed the Baby Bar first time, passed the General Bar first time, and then a couple of years later after experience with a non-profit legal advocacy organization, got hired as a District Attorney in Tulare County, California.

Re: Northwestern California University, School of Law.
« Reply #85 on: January 15, 2013, 09:54:44 AM »
Every quarter Concord Law School posts alumni updates and many of the graduates are in government jobs some administrative, others practicing law.  The graduates are not all sole practishioners, we even have a group of four that started their own law firm last year.  So, it doesn't matter the route you take, if you are good at being a lawyer then who cares if you are at a prominent law firm. I do a lot of volunteering and I also work full time, in my 3rd year now at Concord and during this economic hard time, what I consider my biggest asset is being active in the community which does make a difference.  Not only is your skill important upon graduation but overall character counts too.  Real tired of the snobs out there that think online or schools not of ABA status challenging our credentials and potential.  Choose a school that is a best fit for you!  You will succeed.

Re: Northwestern California University, School of Law.
« Reply #86 on: March 16, 2018, 06:20:57 PM »
I am in my 3rd year of the NWCU program.  I believe it has many great aspects.  We also noticed that it had an higher than normal pass rate of the FYLSE as compared to other schools which is part of the reason we selected this school.  I was able to pass the FYLSE on my first attempt as did all of my study group partners from the school. 

There are multiple reasons for one to enter an online program.  For me it was that I still have children at home and the nearest university was over an hour away and it would run me nearly $100,000 to complete my degree.  Law is a wonderful subject that really can be studied without being in a classroom, (I think of all of my college friends who never went to their law school classes) however, don't think that I don't have brick and mortar envy.  I would love to be in school but also did not want to leave my family for that many hours per day and also want the lovely flexibility to not have to work to pay off loans but have the ability to work for a cause (and generally "causes" don't pay so well!) 

Enjoy the decision making process.  No scenario is perfect so find the one that you feel works best for you.  I will say that I was absolutely prepared for the FYLSE with a combination of great writing instruction in 1L as well as Professor Fleming's Baby Bar Prep course.  I also believed the professors when they said to write with the clock and do as many MBEs as possible.  You can't short cut plain old investment of time.  For me this meant writing every 1L topic essay I could get my hands on as well as over 3000 MBEs in preparation for the FYLSE.  In a way I feel grateful to have already taken the FYLSE as I have had a little glimpse as to what the actual Bar exam might be like. 

Warm regards, SJ