Some T1 grads will make $160k starting. I just find it hilarious that there are people who would consider $160k a tier-wide average.
I agree that regional distinctions are an important factor. Some T3-T4s are the only game in town and thus the local bar and bench are dominated by their grads. Within their region these schools have good reputations. U West Virginia, U Oregon, and U New Mexico are examples. A graduate of any of these schools who wants to stay in the region will probably be just fine. In large urban markets with local T1 schools, however, this dynamic changes. The T2-3-4 grads in areas like NY, LA, or San Francisco face stiffer competition for jobs.
Quote from: oculaw on April 26, 2012, 12:18:55 AMI am open to questions if you have any.School?Company you'll be working for?Prior work experience?Will most of your classmates be working in positions that require bar admission after graduation?What is your school's median salary? (and how many % reporting?)Are you results typical or atypical of other graduates from your school?
I am open to questions if you have any.
That's wonderful! You should be very proud of your accomplishment. However, your accomplishment is the exception that proves the rule. If this sort of entry-level success was routine for graduates of T4 schools, my guess is you wouldn't have taken the time to post about.
Your school matters, but not as much as people say. The reality is don't listen to what people say on internet boards about law school most people that spend time ragging on T4's aren't the most credible sources. As you have proven law school is what you make of it more than anything. At my Tier 2 there were people I thought would be fine and others I thought would make terrible attorneysMy intuition was right the majority of the time. I imagine at your school the same is true and there are many people without jobs who will probably never pass the bar yet alone get hired as an attorney. Others at your school may not have jobs yet, but you know they will be fine and some like yourself that have everything lined up. When you get a J.D. from an ABA school then pass the bar you are a lawyer. You might be a god awful unemployed lawyer or a great one, but how that plays out is more about you opposed to your school. However, you can't deny the road to success would be easier from Harvard opposed to Cooley. As a sidenote it is good to hear some positive news from graduates. The constant whining in the media of recent grads is bad for the profession, and in my experience people that go complaining about how unfair everything is usually aren't worth listening to. Granted I graduated in 07 and maybe things were easier then, but I didn't have anything lined up at graduation despite being fairly high ranked, journal, mock trial, etc. I focused a lot more on school than networking, which probably had a lot to do with it. As a result I worked some less than pleasant jobs as a newly licensed attorney doc review, contract work etc, but in time everything worked out, and I have been at my firm for 3 years now. I can say I am pretty happy with how everything worked out despite not attending a T14 either. Good luck on the bar and in your new job!
It's good that you are doing well. Kudos. That being said a lot of what you said is apples to oranges. The oil industry compared to law? Yeah both industries, the same way apples and oranges are both fruit.........