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LincolnLover

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RI loses democracy
« on: January 15, 2012, 02:23:47 PM »
People tend to forget that RI was the only state that didn't have the right to vote for their leaders in the founding on this nation(it was considered closer to a corporation of plantations) They even arrested the elected governor during the "rebellion"

One would like to think that has changed. Guess not.

http://news.yahoo.com/troubled-ri-city-receivership-loses-democracy-164854804.html

When the state stepped in to take over financially struggling Central Falls in 2010, Rhode Island's smallest city lost something fundamental: its democratic government.

Mayor Charles Moreau would be forced to give back his key to City Hall, and the City Council was relegated to advisory status unsure for months whether it was even allowed to convene.

"They're being governed without elected representation," state Sen. Elizabeth Crowley said of Central Falls' 19,000 residents. "That flies in the face of the democratic principle that our country is founded on, not only our little city. Maybe we should have a tea party and dump some tea in the Blackstone" River.

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Re: RI loses democracy
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 06:53:33 PM »
not all that unusual for cities go into receiverships administered by state.  they considered essentially subdivisions of state in first place.

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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2012, 10:36:07 AM »
Elected govt's can be tossed out, Juries can be dismissed and Defedants forced into Bench Trials (drumheads in all reality)

Gotta love "democracy" huh?  :P

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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 09:03:28 PM »
elected government tossed out fine with me.  much can be said for parliamentary system and variations thereon.

most juries need be dismissed because they have pee.

defendants not forced into bench trials unless jail waived.

and yes, julie fine with democracy.  of course, republicans hate it.

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Re: RI loses democracy
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 02:57:34 PM »
how do Republicans hate it?

elected government tossed out fine with me.  much can be said for parliamentary system and variations thereon.

most juries need be dismissed because they have pee.

defendants not forced into bench trials unless jail waived.

and yes, julie fine with democracy.  of course, republicans hate it.

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Re: RI loses democracy
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2012, 07:38:57 PM »
they seem want keep people from voting.

LincolnLover

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Re: RI loses democracy
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2012, 02:37:58 PM »
How? By requiring photo ID?

they seem want keep people from voting.

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Re: RI loses democracy
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2012, 05:08:44 PM »
Yes. Voter ID laws disproportionately affect minorities, the elderly and college students. Coincidentally, all blocs of Democratic voters. Placing barriers to voting--just like poll taxes and literacy tests--are historically a means to limit the  number of people who aren't going to vote for "your guy." Same plays from the same play book.

Also: it's a non-solution looking for a problem.

How? By requiring photo ID?

they seem want keep people from voting.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2012, 03:48:25 PM »
What college student (who is a citzen) does NOT have a state ID? Heck, you need one to do virtually anything school related or otherwise. How do you factor college students into that mix?

Yes. Voter ID laws disproportionately affect minorities, the elderly and college students. Coincidentally, all blocs of Democratic voters. Placing barriers to voting--just like poll taxes and literacy tests--are historically a means to limit the  number of people who aren't going to vote for "your guy." Same plays from the same play book.

Also: it's a non-solution looking for a problem.

How? By requiring photo ID?

they seem want keep people from voting.

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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2012, 01:45:54 AM »
Students who moved to go to college and don't want to change their state of residence. It's not just "a state ID," it's "that state's ID." Here, since you obviously skipped the last link I posted, let me provide you another helpful link: click here

What college student (who is a citzen) does NOT have a state ID? Heck, you need one to do virtually anything school related or otherwise. How do you factor college students into that mix?

Yes. Voter ID laws disproportionately affect minorities, the elderly and college students. Coincidentally, all blocs of Democratic voters. Placing barriers to voting--just like poll taxes and literacy tests--are historically a means to limit the  number of people who aren't going to vote for "your guy." Same plays from the same play book.

Also: it's a non-solution looking for a problem.

How? By requiring photo ID?

they seem want keep people from voting.
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