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jonlevy

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Re: Where can you get admitted with California DL degree
« Reply #70 on: January 27, 2012, 09:09:45 AM »
You can do Vets, Tax, and Social Security advocacy now without a law license to one degree or another. Once you have the law license from California, even though you are in federal administrative practice, the Washington state bar may take a dim view of you opening an office and advertising as an attorney with only a California license.  This is a very gray area if you intend to have a physical presence in Washington. Since you would be competing with Washington licensed lawyers in the same field, eventually you will be subject to to a UPL (unlicensed practice of law) referal to the state bar. So instead of being outside the box, you will be in the box unless you plan accordingly and do your due diligence to avoid such issues.  But the issue arises all the time - one just needs to be aware how to avoid it.

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Re: Where can you get admitted with California DL degree
« Reply #71 on: January 27, 2012, 04:42:52 PM »
That makes sense since when people say "allowed to practice in federal court" I tend to think of someone representing a CA client in a diversity case that just happens to endup in WA, VA, etc.

You can do Vets, Tax, and Social Security advocacy now without a law license to one degree or another. Once you have the law license from California, even though you are in federal administrative practice, the Washington state bar may take a dim view of you opening an office and advertising as an attorney with only a California license.  This is a very gray area if you intend to have a physical presence in Washington. Since you would be competing with Washington licensed lawyers in the same field, eventually you will be subject to to a UPL (unlicensed practice of law) referal to the state bar. So instead of being outside the box, you will be in the box unless you plan accordingly and do your due diligence to avoid such issues.  But the issue arises all the time - one just needs to be aware how to avoid it.

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Re: Where can you get admitted with California DL degree
« Reply #72 on: January 28, 2012, 10:19:41 AM »
Most federal district courts restrict bar membership to in state attorneys, some require co-counsel on cases, the minority permit out of state attorneys to become members, ND Illinois, USDC North Dakota, USDC Puerto Rico come to mind.  The Circuit Courts of Appeals are more liberal. But even though I can represent a client in the 11th Circuit in Atlanta, I cannot set up an office there because I am not a Georgia attorney. For a single case, pro hac vice is always available but that usually but not always requires local counsel. And therein lies the idiocy of the entire scheme, the higher the court, the less thaty are concerned about your law degree or where your state bar membership is from.

There is a lawsuit in California ongoing about this:

http://www.mjplaw.org/index.html

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Re: Where can you get admitted with California DL degree
« Reply #73 on: January 28, 2012, 12:10:27 PM »
You'd think they'd create a federal bar to pass and have it seperate from the state bars and that could be the end of it.

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Re: Where can you get admitted with California DL degree
« Reply #74 on: January 28, 2012, 07:05:20 PM »
Nope each and every federal court and agency (if applicable) has its own rules.  The good news is that DL degree holders who pass the Cal Bar can join many of them on motion.

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Re: Where can you get admitted with California DL degree
« Reply #75 on: January 29, 2012, 06:31:57 PM »
Right, I get that part. What I'm saying is that it would make more sense if  all federal courts were the same standard, since all being federal.

Nope each and every federal court and agency (if applicable) has its own rules.  The good news is that DL degree holders who pass the Cal Bar can join many of them on motion.

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Re: Where can you get admitted with California DL degree
« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2012, 06:38:30 PM »
You obviously have not attended law school, common sense and law are mutually exclusive.

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Re: Where can you get admitted with California DL degree
« Reply #77 on: January 31, 2012, 03:46:45 PM »
 ;D

You obviously have not attended law school, common sense and law are mutually exclusive.