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Julie Fern

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Re: Sincere Inquiry from a Starter
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2012, 02:51:00 PM »
wait:  hitler vegatarian?  that change everything.

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Re: Sincere Inquiry from a Starter
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2012, 03:24:29 PM »
Murder good, meat bad?
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« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2012, 05:32:27 PM »
no.  it explain moustache.

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Re: Sincere Inquiry from a Starter
« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2012, 06:13:03 PM »
Logical hole- child porn conviction = bad person = bad at LSAT prep = you better person = you good at LAST prep = go pay for your services.

You can't use logic then say, "think about it as a parent"- emotional generalization. Arg.

To Catch A Predator was wrong on so many levels. Are you really using that to infer (note not deduce) how the world is?

I'm not saying child porn is good, just that its unrelated to your criticism without unacceptable generalization.

If you say to me: Hitler was a cannibal. And I say, Nope he was a vegetarian.  Am I defending Hitler by pointing out you are wrong on the facts.   Holocaust murderer does not = cannibal.

"Character" is so wild and varying a concept as to not exist.  There are people that think Hitler had "good character".

Your logical hole chain at the top is not what I have said. 

I never said that because he is a sex offender deviant he doesn't know how to teach/tutor the LSAT, that was never an issue. He could know the test very well, IDK.  Also, I'm not in competition with the guy.  You made the same false assumption somebody on TLS did.  I'm not a rival tutor competing with him for business from students.  He is on the east coast, I'm on the west coast almost 4000 miles away.

I'm not overgeneralizing.  It's been proven time and time again that almost all deviant sex offenders, especially ones with sexual desires towards children/underage adolescents re-offend even after having been caught before and knowing the serious consequences they face if caught again.  Many quality research studies have concluded, based on using sound statistical methods and data, interviews with convicts, etc., that almost all pedophilia type sex offenders have committed the crimes many times before getting caught and busted the first time, and continue to commit the crimes many times again after first conviction. 

It's not a wild generalization to assume that there is a high probability that a caught and convicted pedophilia type sex offender will be tempted to and do it again.  This isn't the type of crime a person that is willing to and intentionally does it commits just once. 

Would you believe a defense such as "oh golly your honor, I had bad judgment that day and made the mistake of seeking and obtaining child porn just to see what it was like on a whim and happened to get caught with it that one and only time.  Sorry, never done it before, I promise I'll never do it again." ??

That type of defense/position goes against known facts and reality.  It's probably pretty hard to find child porn given that it is illegal and morally repugnant, so a person would have to intentionally put in effort and affirmative actions to obtain it in the first place with specific intent and a desire to want it and get it, then would have to have done something bad to be detected and caught by law enforcement with it. 

My question about if you are a parent is not an emotional generalization, it's about risk assessment and protecting a child/young impressionable person from potential danger/risky circumstances. 

Since the guy had the urge to do it and did it at least once in a way that he got caught and convicted for, it's logical to assume there is a level of probability that he will do it again given the opportunity. 

Many pedophiles and sexual predators seek out positions of authority where they have access to young people, such as being a teacher, where they are supposed to be trusted by the younger person and the student is expected to be obedient to the adult.  The perverts that do this sometimes exploit that power/authority role over young people to have their way with one or some of them for gratification of their deviant urges. 

The logical quality and credibility of your reasoning and positions are seriously put in doubt by your statement about the concept of character (acceptable moral character is what we are talking about), being so wild as to not exist.  It does exist and there are widely established and agreed upon by society moral standards that relate to character.  Sure there are some behaviors that people disagree about in terms of whether it is of good or bad moral character, such as smoking pot, but there are many acts and behaviors fairly universally agreed upon to be of bad moral character by civilized society, one of them being pedophilia.   


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Re: Sincere Inquiry from a Starter
« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2012, 07:20:09 PM »
You seem to know an awful lot about most people.  You must have good character.  Take note: child porn is bad. Got it. You do not need to argue against child porn.  I tried to avoid this avenue, but here we are.  And here I am, unsurprised. 

You really can't see the huge global generalizations you are making?  Really? Really?

For Good Friday I ask: can anyone ever be forgiven?  Can the child porn guy ever get out from under it? Ever? Or for the rest of his life does he have to deal with the contempt of everyone- publicized by the registry?  We all know the answer is no because there are too many idiots in the human population that hate so easily and absolutely.

I'm not saying he's a great guy, just that the issues are unrelated.  Incidentally, is it possible he is a great guy?  Just slightly remotely possible?
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