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It is a shame that both evangelicals and the mainstream media want to make Romney's religion an issue. You would think that in this day and age that would be irrelevent.
That argument has been going on for years. Post WWII America was too afraid of the NAZIesque line any national I.D. (papers) would present. It is creepy, to me and to many others. It would not stop the illegal immigration "problem" because they already know how to successfully stay under the radar.Any added process is always a burden on the poor. This is how you want to use the gov to provide jobs, really? Not infrastructure construction? Not Americorps? Not alliterative energy? Not education? Not senior centers? Not food banks?Romney is a venture capitalist, btw. He buys dying companies for cheap and sells them for more. He has no farms. On that level, immigration is not relevant to him, personally. It is to some of his fam. It is to some of his supporters, but his position on immigrations is harsh, has been getting harsher as he has to appeal to the extreme elements of the new repub party. Politically he has to slit the throats of illegal immigrants to appeal to the repub base, who incidentally hate illegal immigrants with a vigor that defies all reason.
Shoulda, woulda, coulda!!! Really? Its not about what's should be, its about what is- What is practical and aware and ultimately functional. Have I been wasting all my time writing with you about this? We have gone over this and after all this writing I am no longer on the fence with this issue:The push for voting I.D. is a means to change the voter pool in jurisdictions from Dem to Repub. Its a shady political ploy to push out voters and influence elections. If life were fair, the proponents of something so sinister wouldn't be permitted to vote because they are trying to deprive other of their ability to vote (but its not fair and nothing practical can be done). The voter registration system is functional, fine and works. WE DO NOT HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH VOTER FRAUD. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS CAN'T VOTE. Why do you think we do? The only major problems in recent history have been administrative mistakes, not fraud or even suspected fraud.No, voters should not have to "prove" who they are with I.D. A voter registration card is sufficient. Thinking about this in this forum has put me on one clear side of this issue, where before I was undecided and truly hadn't given it much thought because it doesn't impact me (and maybe I even feel guilty for not taking the time to try and see it from the perspective of a poor person). Now I am clearly opposed to voter I.D.
Quote from: winchester buttre on January 18, 2012, 02:10:49 PMIt is a shame that both evangelicals and the mainstream media want to make Romney's religion an issue. You would think that in this day and age that would be irrelevent.But it is an issue - look at all the crap the GOP shills threw at Obama about his Church?
You are talking about what should be, could be or would be- not what IS in regards to what affects people and what resources are available (do you even understand that?). That is where I got that, but don't worry its not very vital to anything.I wasn't making a Hitler comparison, so much of the modern world was determined by what happened after WWII, including administrative stuff- like I.D.s. History- that is one reason we find national I.D.s creepy, but that's neither here nor there and again not very vital- forget I said either. Neither is important enough to explore on their own.